On Friday 20 June 2003 08:02 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> Forward to Cooker.  I did it again.
>
> On Friday 20 June 2003 12:38 am, w9ya wrote:
> > Well the issues you are talking about : "package management" and "query"
> > have little to nothing to do with the actual installation process in ANY
> > operating system from a user's standpoint. So....
> >
> > I think the real issue we have been talking about is NOT installation at
> > all. But the rpm-drake stuff tries to BOTH install AND manage packages
> > without a clear understanding that a user *would* think it is too hard to
> > install linux programs when the gui tools are not made clean and easy for
> > him to use.
>
> This is your opinion, not a fact, but your opinion that I and others
> disagree with.  It may be supported by some anecdotal evidence, but that
> does not change the fact that it is an opinion.  No one, including you and
> LX have done any market research that has any kind of validity to it that
> says a result, one way or another.  LX's beef, from what I gather, isn't so
> much abour rpmdrake as it is about Mandrake Developers not listening to the
> votes of Club members.

The parameters that I gathered my evidence under are this: user feedback to 
me.. To a large extent this is their opinions. Alot of users found the older 
rpmdrake easier to use. They had specific issues with a number of things in 
the new rpmdrake. I shared this with this the cooker community at large. I 
hope you are not discounting their opinions in any way. That could be 
counter-productive.

>
> Since I am in no position to influence the developer's, and not able to
> assist in the developement of any changes, I need to spend my time on other
> more valuable (to me) issues, so I am officially dropping out of this
> conversation.

Um, well o.k. For me, it might be a long time before I share any other user 
feedback. This has been a disagreeable endeavor for me. Perhaps it is the way 
I was made to feel defensive about the info I shared ?

Bob Finch



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