That's what I was saying ! (Now be prepared for some flames.)
Bob On Friday 20 June 2003 05:39 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 21:36 schrieb Buchan Milne: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Steffen Barszus wrote: > > > Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 20:26 schrieb Buchan Milne: > > > > > > [... UI review ....] > > > > > > > > > > > > SuSE 8.1 as far as I understood. (http://lwn.net/Articles/10061/) > > > > Thanks. > > > > IMHO, the fact that you need 17 screenshots says enough about it's > > complexity, and although there seem to be some nice features > > (disk-free-space meter and it seems to be able to show details from > > different versions of packages side-by-side) and it looks professional > > in some respects, is IMHO a bit complex. But I guess I should actually > > try it (but I don't think I will have time ..). > > > > Regards, > > Buchan > > I'm following the thread since a while and I'm not sure yet what to think > about it. I'm under the impression that it seems not clear who is the > targeted person that tool is designed for. If it is for newbies the > interface how it currently is can be fine, alltough I would not seperat > that hard between software installation and deinstallation. > Softwaremanagment is one task and can not be splitted. What I dislike is to > list installed packages in the softwareinstaller. This is in total contrast > to the actual design decission. It obsoltes the complete idea behind it. > I'm against such a half made step. Either there is one interface for both > and the seperation idea is not working or they are seperated. > From the discussion I read it seems clear to me that the simplified > interface does not work for people that have just a bit of knowledge. So > having it that simplified would require a full featured softwaremanagment > tool for the more advanced users. This is what I read out of the wish of > having the old rpmdrake back and the discussion in this thread. > > Looking to the "outside world" only to interfaces are somewhat comperable > to rpmdrake-1.4-alike. > > 1) synaptic > ------------- > ( a newer screenshot from debian-3.0 : > http://linuxinstall.org/screenshots/release-3.0/synaptic.jpg) > > It is for softwaremanagment , includes as far as I can see source managment > and looks very powerfull to me. > > 2) yast2-softwareinstaller > ------------------------------ > > I guess the screenshots are saying enough. > > What in both is the same: They don't try to hide complexity. The only > alternative currently for power-user is to use urpmi. And this is what > people complain about. > > I can only say don't make half decissions. The screenshot of synaptic shows > exactly how a power-user tool could looks like. It looks clean but > powerfull. Adding complexity to a newbie-tool is awkward and breaking own > made design decissions is bad. > > Steffen
