Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 21:36 schrieb Buchan Milne: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Am Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 20:26 schrieb Buchan Milne: > > > > [... UI review ....] > >
> > SuSE 8.1 as far as I understood. (http://lwn.net/Articles/10061/) > > Thanks. > > IMHO, the fact that you need 17 screenshots says enough about it's > complexity, and although there seem to be some nice features > (disk-free-space meter and it seems to be able to show details from > different versions of packages side-by-side) and it looks professional > in some respects, is IMHO a bit complex. But I guess I should actually > try it (but I don't think I will have time ..). > > Regards, > Buchan I'm following the thread since a while and I'm not sure yet what to think about it. I'm under the impression that it seems not clear who is the targeted person that tool is designed for. If it is for newbies the interface how it currently is can be fine, alltough I would not seperat that hard between software installation and deinstallation. Softwaremanagment is one task and can not be splitted. What I dislike is to list installed packages in the softwareinstaller. This is in total contrast to the actual design decission. It obsoltes the complete idea behind it. I'm against such a half made step. Either there is one interface for both and the seperation idea is not working or they are seperated. >From the discussion I read it seems clear to me that the simplified interface does not work for people that have just a bit of knowledge. So having it that simplified would require a full featured softwaremanagment tool for the more advanced users. This is what I read out of the wish of having the old rpmdrake back and the discussion in this thread. Looking to the "outside world" only to interfaces are somewhat comperable to rpmdrake-1.4-alike. 1) synaptic ------------- ( a newer screenshot from debian-3.0 : http://linuxinstall.org/screenshots/release-3.0/synaptic.jpg) It is for softwaremanagment , includes as far as I can see source managment and looks very powerfull to me. 2) yast2-softwareinstaller ------------------------------ I guess the screenshots are saying enough. What in both is the same: They don't try to hide complexity. The only alternative currently for power-user is to use urpmi. And this is what people complain about. I can only say don't make half decissions. The screenshot of synaptic shows exactly how a power-user tool could looks like. It looks clean but powerfull. Adding complexity to a newbie-tool is awkward and breaking own made design decissions is bad. Steffen
