On Friday 20 June 2003 03:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
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> w9ya wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
> >>So packages on a CD don't count? Again, I do agree that users should be
> >>able to see what software is installed, but
> >>
> >>-kpackage does do this, as does gnorpm (if it will currently build or
> >> work with rpm-4.2)
> >
> > The *point* was, that new users should/might want to have one gui based
> > utility do this. Or at least that was my point. One program for the
>
> user to
>
> > run, not several.
>
> (Hint, I am not disagreeing with you on this point, read the paragraph
> above the one you are replying to).
>
> >>-The majority of software a user is going to use, they should be able to
> >>find quite quickly
> >
> > Some yes, some no. That was the basis we were talking about.
>
> Maybe the real problem is people assuming that Mandrake is as bad as
> otehr distros that don't install a CD-writing app when a CD-writer is
> found.
>
> >>-You did claim windows was point-and-click-easy, so why does my
> >> girlfriend install software easily under Mandrake, but not under
> >> Windows? There is no global catalog of available software on Windows in
> >> any case.
> >
> > One example. Again the *point* was to consider making it one program.
>
> Not in the context of this paragraph, which was in response to your
> claims that software installation is trivial under Windows.
>
> I lost about 50MB of important data since my previous backup, to a
> setup.exe which on uninstall took all the files in the same folder with
> it, and the person who installed it had kindly installed it on the root
> of my D: drive, which contained all my data.
>
> > One that
> > can both scan for installed and not installed programs. On this I
>
> thought we
>
> > agreed several posts ago. Has that changed ?
>
> No.
>
> > Well now I am confused, or do you like to "argue" both sides of the
>
> "coin" ?
>
> You made some statements which I disagreed with, but you don't seem to
> notice that I don't disagree with your main point.
>
> In summary
> - -the fact that some people here find urpmi more convenient doens't mean
> we think newbies should use it, but it means we don't use rpmdrake much
> - -Windows isn't much better (it doesn't show me alternative media players
> like winamp when I click any "Add/remove programs" menu. Installing
> softare from the network is possible if you have an Active Directory
> domain, but each piece of software (that doesn't support MSI files)
> needs to be specially prepared for this. (BTW, this is why I think urpmi
> should have LDAP support ...). Software you uninstall sometimes doesn't
> get removed from the list of installed software. Software installation
> and uninstallation can be unpredictable. Not all software installs
> itself into the list of installed software (yes, even ones where you run
> a real setup.exe).
> - -It would be nice if by default rpmdrake would show software that is
> installed. IMHO, there should be an options dialog, which has things
> like "show installed software in searches".
>
> Is there any reason why installed software can not be under a seperate
> branch of the tree view?

Any reason it can't be in the same program, from a user's perspective ?

Bob

P.S. I am choosing to not respond to your previous comments, as this has gone 
on way beyond a circular argument.


>
> Regards,
> Buchan
>
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