On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, J.A. Magallon wrote:

> 
> On 07.24, Buchan Milne wrote:
> > 
> > Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> > > The mandrake backgrounds are always the same.
> > 
> > I agree ... it would be nice to have some better ones.
> > 
> > > Have a look at :
> > > http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/fonds/camelia-12.jpg (1280x1024)
> > > http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/fonds/camelia-16.jpg (1600x1200)
> > > I am the author of these pictures (and proud of them ;-) and I would be
> > > happy to see them in Mdk 9.2.
> > >
> > > Other pictures in http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/fonds/ are available
> > > except LonePenguin.jpg and Cocotte.jpg whose I am not the author.
> > >
> > 
> > Any of my photos can be used also, only thing is my camera is quite old
> > (limited to 1280x960) at present ...
> > 
> > This are the ones I might suggest (all of which I have used on my
> > desktop before):
> > 
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=view&album=Landscapes&pic=table_mountain_sunset.jpg&dispsize=640&start=0
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=view&album=Genadendal_Hiking_Trail_17_18_Nov_2001&pic=Genadendal_0009.jpg&dispsize=640&start=0
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=view&album=Lions_Head_4_August_2001&pic=lionshead-021.jpg&dispsize=640&start=0
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=view&album=Otter_28_Mar_2_April_2002&pic=otter006.jpg&dispsize=640&start=0
> > 
> > Or maybe some of these (unless Danny or someone has some better
> > flower/tulip photos)?
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=album&album=Flowers_200208&dispsize=640
> > 
> > I have also used this one, but I guess it's not appropriate ;-)
> > http://ranger.dnsalias.com/photos/?mode=view&album=TFDC_Airshow_2001&pic=Rooivalk_0000a.jpg&dispsize=640&start=40
> > 
> > The problem is that photos are quite big, so we really don't want to
> > have very many (5-10 at most I guess), so I guess we should vote some
> > way. I am not sure if the wiki poll plugin is good enough for this ...
> > 
> 
> I know it is a matter of taste, but I really hate those flower, landscape,
> animals and so on on my background. They are too distracting.

But popular since XP ...

> Some I like:
> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/242.php
> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/217.php
> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/209.php
> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/208.php
> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/110.php
> 
> Just an idea. What I really would like is to take all backgrounds in
> http://art.gnome.org/ and get them packaged. It looks easy, just
> grab them from ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/art.gnome.org/backgrounds/
> and put all them on a gnome-art-backgrounds package.
> There are tons of very nice backgrounds there...
> Uhm, they are GNOME specific, but sure there is a similar site for
> KDE...

IMHO, we don't want to purposely waste space that could be used for 
software on duplication of style. I think it would be nice to have 
one or two *really* good backgrounds in each style, so maybe:
-landscapes
-flowers/butterflies kind of idea
-textured background (like the ripples)
-flatter background in the style of the current blue background, or 
something like the default OSX, or one of the Ximian-type (the sofa stuff)

But, it would of course be nicer to have a bit of a Mandrake slant, 
instead of just ripping backgrounds off art.gnome.org or kde-look.org.

The issue is really getting the default look integrated, from lilo, 
through bootsplash, dm, desktop splash screen (if applicable), cursor 
theme, desktop background, icons, widget theme, wm theme etc etc.

I assume someone at Mandrakesoft handles this, but in the past when I have 
tried to contact such people, I have had very abrupt replies ... it would 
be nice if people who have the ability (not me! I am no "graphist") in the 
community could work together with the Mandrakesoft'ers. I know these 
aspects are probably sensitive, and Mandrakesoft would want to keep such 
things under wraps possibly, but that is why we have GPG (which we trust 
for more sensitive things ...).

Of course, it might be nice if someone from the community could step up to 
the plate and handle community contributions, and try and start 
cooperation with the Mandrakesoft people.

Oh yes, of course, keeping the graphics consistent even through the 
distro to the websites may be another idea to continue building brand 
awareness (as SuSE and RH do).

Regards,
Buchan

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