More to the point, as of two dayas ago, the deps were screwed up enough that 
you could not do an upgrade without doing a no-deps on this (kde et al) and 
MANY other packages including samba. I agree this is unacceptable. Instead of 
arguing at length, at least get this much working correctly please.

Bob Finch


On Saturday 09 August 2003 06:53 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Ainsi parlait Jason Straight :
> > On Friday 08 August 2003 20:25, Duncan wrote:
> > > On Fri 08 Aug 2003 16:14, Greg Meyer posted as excerpted below:
> > > > On Friday 08 August 2003 02:21 am, Laurent Montel wrote:
> > > > > > kdebase requires kdm, meaning you can't install kde without
> > > > > > kdm/mdkdm
> > > > >
> > > > > kdebase will require all the time kdm.
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't it make more sense for kdebase to require dm and have all of
> > > > the kdm/gdm/xdm/mdkkdm provide dm?  Especially if mdkkdm and
> > > > kdebase-kdm are separate packages.
> > >
> > > Why require a dm at all?  There are those of us who prefer booting init
> > > 3, then starting kde from a console, avoiding the dm.
> >
> > For those of us who know that we also know we could force the removal.
> > It's probably not a good idea for a newbie to not get a dm - and not
> > requiring one would allow them to forget - or deselect one not knowing
> > how important it would be to a new windows or mac convert.
>
> RPM has only one level of dependencies, meant for mandatory requirements,
> as opposed to DPKG who has two levels, mandatory and advised. No one should
> have to resort to --nodeps for normal system administration, just to make
> things a bit easier for newbies.


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