On Friday 29 August 2003 07:11 am, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> From: "w9ya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Friday 29 August 2003 05:02 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > > Hi !
> > >
> > > pro-linux reports that rc1 nay be the last rc before final version. Is
> > > that true ? I haven't read anything about that and don't know where
> > > they got that information from. A typical pro-linux misinformation ?
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Steffen
> >
> > Gosh I hope not.
>
> Warly already reported that an RC2 is coming...
>
> > For the following reasons;
>
> [...]
>
> > 5 - I didn't catch a "freeze is upcoming on such and such a date"
> > announcement. This lack of advanced notice appeared to be a major
>
> complaint
>
> > from the testers on the 9.1 testing. The reasons testers wanted this to
> > be announced were covered well at that time (or so I thought).
>
> This info was in the estimated timetable done by Warly:
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseInfo#Schedule_estimat
>ion_WarLy

No comments on wikis. Or maybe better put; I had better not waste everyones 
time on my impressions of wikis. In any event; I think the timetable *needs* 
to reiterated on the mailing list as "milestones" approach as stuff on a wiki 
is easily "missed".

>
> and he also posted amessage to this list when Cooker Was Frozen...
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=106199249931465&w=2

Well, the point was it need to be a message that said in advance that a freeze 
was coming in (on let's say) two weeks. Something like that. Sorry if that 
wasn't clear, I guess I shouldn't have assumed everyone remembered the 
essence of the previous threads on this. (A 1/2 a year ago or so.)

>
> > In any event, there are some packages like OO that should probably be
>
> upgraded
>
> > and given a chance to be tested well. A freeze announcement would have
> > allowed this to happen in a more controllable manner other than "oh well,
> > things are now frozen, no more changes, and this is the last testing
> > release". Put another way: Yes freezes are important, but I do agree that
> > some things need to be upgraded prior to a freeze and advanced
>
> announcement
>
> > of an upcoming freeze allows everyone involved in testing a chance to be
> > a part of these upgrades.
>
> OOo will be in RC2 according to Warly:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=106206826212175&w=2

Good. Again this is one example (and perhaps a poor one as it is being 
upgraded). However I do not mean that every possible package should be 
upgraded either. Again, announcement(s) a week or two ahead would allow for 
such things to happen more smoothly. With less full time personnel, this 
would seem to be prudent (IMHO).

Very best regards;

Bob F.

>
> > I could go on some more, with some fine points, and some additional
>
> comments,
>
> > but this should be sufficient for the purpose of outlining the major
>
> issues
>
> > concerned  with rc1 as the final testing release.
> >
> > Bob Finch
>
> Regards
>
> Thomas


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