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w9ya wrote:

>
> No comments on wikis. Or maybe better put; I had better not waste
everyones
> time on my impressions of wikis.

Yes, since a lot of others realise the benefits, and contribute,
regardless of the extra effort required to write good content on a wiki
instead of flaming on a mailng list. Wiki's die when people don't show
an interest ...

> In any event; I think the timetable *needs*
> to reiterated on the mailing list as "milestones" approach as stuff on
a wiki
> is easily "missed".

Or, people can just check the release schedule every few days on their
own when they know that a release may impact their own planning.

>>and he also posted amessage to this list when Cooker Was Frozen...
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=106199249931465&w=2
>
>
> Well, the point was it need to be a message that said in advance that
a freeze
> was coming in (on let's say) two weeks. Something like that.

There were, just not to this list. Any one with a real interest in
freeze in main got one.

> Sorry if that
> wasn't clear, I guess I shouldn't have assumed everyone remembered the
> essence of the previous threads on this. (A 1/2 a year ago or so.)
>
>
>>>In any event, there are some packages like OO that should probably be
>>
>>upgraded
>>
>>
>>>and given a chance to be tested well. A freeze announcement would have
>>>allowed this to happen in a more controllable manner other than "oh well,
>>>things are now frozen, no more changes, and this is the last testing
>>>release". Put another way: Yes freezes are important, but I do agree that
>>>some things need to be upgraded prior to a freeze and advanced
>>
>>announcement
>>
>>
>>>of an upcoming freeze allows everyone involved in testing a chance to be
>>>a part of these upgrades.
>>
>>OOo will be in RC2 according to Warly:
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker&m=106206826212175&w=2
>
>
> Good. Again this is one example (and perhaps a poor one as it is being
> upgraded). However I do not mean that every possible package should be
> upgraded either.

Of course, not, it's the role of the release manager to decide which
ones do, and which ones don't. Warly obviously agreed to allow OO.o-1.1,
but refused samba-3.0.0 (so samba3 will stay in contribs). Of course,
this doesn't have to happen on public lists (since then the real issues
often get lost).

> Again, announcement(s) a week or two ahead would allow for
> such things to happen more smoothly.

Well, IMHO it's the maintainers responsibility to warn people of
upcoming large upgrades, as I would have done if samba3 were accepted
into main.

Regards,
Buchan

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