s�ndagen den 19 oktober 2003 16.42 skrev Jan Ciger: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brook Humphrey wrote: > | you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows > > converts > > | could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to > > figure out > > | how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to > > uses > > | it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for > > system > > | recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I > | even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially > > when > > | the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs > > will > > | not do that for me. > > Hi, > > I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody > expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? "Windows users > expect this", "Windows users are used to that", blah. Whenever somebody > wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - "Windows does > it like this or that !" I am not saying that it is not important but > hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! > > Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, > that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi > or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and > it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the > past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience > with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 > years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody > is an old fart as me and you). > > On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time > Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they > are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). > That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. > > Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some > server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people > going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie > trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn > somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( > > Jan Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: 1) drivers for graphics 2) drivers for sound 3) drivers for java 4) drivers for realplayer 5) drivers for flash
To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at grip for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by downloading the installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the economic situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. I think you may have a problem here. You could make a 'HOWTO' that explains this. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
