Le dim 19/10/2003 � 17:15, G�tz Waschk a �crit :
> > The Idea is not weather or not to include them but were to include
> > them. Who are they trying to market with the free download edition.
> > Developers I sure hope not as allot of the devel libs and things
> > that are needed are not really in there. To get a good devel box
> > going you may need libs out of contribs along with the devel
> > counterparts and many other things. It gets even worse if you
> > develop for gnome as a fair amount of gnome libs are in contribs. Hm
> > so if the free version is not geared to developers per say who is it
> > marketed to? It should be first priority to find the target market
> > and target them.
> 
> I don't care about the business effects of this, but I think a Linux
> distribution needs the two most common developer's editors, emacs and
> vim. 

But the discovery pack does not need this

> Without them, you can't take a distribution seriously. Sure, the
> bootsplash and kde themes toys are important for the first impression,
> but the usefulness of the included software create the quality of the
> distribution. What's more useful, GNU emacs, which is God and can do
> everything, or kde screensavers, which are eye candy but don't
> increase your productivity.

yes, they increase my screen lifetime ! :p
I have several workstations, and people a=on these wortkstation doesn't
use emacs/vi/...
We need vi as this is the default editor for rescue, but the minimal
version. In discovery pack emacs is not needed.
Normal users like toys, normal users like having a beatiful like
system/OS, normal users like some fancy screensavers ( look in windows
world all the different kind of screensaver you can dl on the net ).
Discovery pack is for normal users.

I think we need 3 rpms trees :
- the first tree will be the base for discovery pack, 
- the second add all the others packages ( so is include in powerpack
and more, the third iso in dl edition ) 
- and the third tree remains the contrib one

--- 
L'Amour pour principe, l'Ordre pour base, et le Progres pour but. 
-- Auguste Comte, Systeme de politique positive


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