BH> um they are. Maybe you didn't look right at the top of the page but listed
BH> right there are drivers for ati, nvidia, winmodems and whatnot else.

Let see:
http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-4496-2mdk.i586.html

"kernel-2.4.22.10mdk"
this is the "old" kernel, new is 18
So no new drivers.
It doesn't matter to me really but it if you read on one page that they
should be there then they should be there.


BH> um yes this does happen but the updates fix this. On the downside they also
BH> trigger this so you are left having to do ctrl-alt-f1 or so login as root and
BH> type update-menus -v. The downside is it deletes all the links off of kicker
BH> also and they dont come back.

Imagine this happening to a newbee. He would be lost totally and would
say this mandrake thing is a piece of crap.

BH> well for the redhat versions that give you the nice server stuff that mandrake
BH> does it will cost you between 1500 - 2500. I find the mandrake servers are in
BH> higher usage and the powerpack includes more or less the same stuff you have
BH> to pay much more for if you would run suse or redhat. 

I know that's probably the reason that I have been using mandrake all
this time.
Don't get me wrong I like mandrake really but that is why these kind
of things get me really mad. Most people don't know that Mandrake is
much better server distribution that RH. For example under RH iptables
doesn't know how to autoprobe for ip_conntrack_ftp for example.
Under ML all is automated. But I repeat this kind of stuff leave a
very bad impression to people who are not familiar with ML.





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