On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Valin wrote:
| > I have absolutely no problems with Netscape 4.75. None. You say it's
| > the most unstable version yet you do not say what makes it unstable?
|
| Simple receipe (works about 50% of the times):
|
| - Click on a link to a .tgz or .rpm (or any other file you need to
| download)
|
| - Enter the file name in the dialog.
|
| - Click OK.
|
| - The dialog doesn't close, and clicking cancel doesn't help either.
|
| - Close the dialog with the delete button
|
| - Netscape crashes.
I can't say that Netscape is unstable. It's better to say that Netscape has
compatibility issues with a lot of sites, and problems with rendering
standard HTML code.
First, there is no support for Absolute Positioning. /no CSS2 support/
Mozilla has partial support, but it's still far away from finished product.
I don't know how long it will take - 6 months or 1 year, but current Mozilla
is in Beta-stage.
Unfortunately, Mozilla has even CSS1 issues. Just try my page
http://kde2.newmail.ru - menu on left side are not rendered correctly both in
Netscape and Mozilla. (and looks ok in Konqueror, while some font size is
still wrong)
One example of Netscape unstability from my experince.
I was browsing one site, checking its code. Have opened 5 windows with "View
Source" for 5 different frames. Browsed one more site in new window. Netscape
crashed and killed all 6 (7? just don't remeber) windows...
There is no "Bug Report/Backtrace" feature in Netscape like in Konqueror, so
unfortunately I can't send it to you.
One more glitch.
Try to open directory with big number of files.
I usally open "My Documents" on DOS/Windows partition.
I have there about 500 pages saved with MS IE and Konqueror.
Netscape will show some bull$hit.
Mozilla ... just nothing. I was trying now, while writing this e-mail.
In general, file management with Netscape/Mozilla (like - simple- show
directory list) is terrible with Netscape/Mozilla, and not improving.
|
| I don't know if this is present with all versions or only the french one,
| but I consider 4.75 to be unusable for me (I prefer the current Mozilla
| builds to 4.75).
|
| > 4.75 fixes some rather security problems (go to
| > www.linux-mandrake.com/en/security/mdk71-updates.php3 and read about
| > them). If you don't mind massive security holes in your Netscape,
| > feel free to use anything other than 4.75.
|
| Then, I prefer no Netscape at all.
|
| Jean-Marc Valin
Jean, may be, you can contribute some of your time to Konqueror testing?
Konqueror has security model based on OpenSSL, and during last few weeks
there was significant development for SSL connections.
***
And, my short question to Vincent Danen.
Vincent, does it make sense to report bugs for Netscape?
Why we should do work what Netscape engineers paid for? (I mean, not only me
and Jean-Marc, but you as well)
The same about Mozilla. As far as I understand from mozilla.org, it is not
GPL'ed. And now Netscape engineers approve patches. I can't say that this is
bad.
But Netscape/AOL has a lot of money, and despite of this they can't release
good, standard-compliant, fast browser already for 3 years. And this money
haven't helped them to make product good.
(I am not speaking here about code size of Netscape/Mozilla)
Best regards,
Vadim Plessky
