6 ??????? 2000 00:01, Alan Olsen ???????:
|   On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Franco Silvestro wrote:
|   > On Tuesday 05 December 2000 19:44, Alen Salamun wrote:
|   >
|   > [...]
|   >
|   > > What should I do with gimp, imagemagicks, kde, gimp... on server?
|   > >
|   > > I agree there should be a "graphical" server install but if you work
|   > > with many many servers that do their job as internet servers and so
|   > > on you do apriciate the fact, that you can say install server and
|   > > you'll get machine with approx. 200Mb disk space occupied and server
|   > > apps.
|   >
|   > [...]
|   >
|   > In graphical server expert install use slider at minimum and if I
|   > remember is a working install with less than 200MB .... with select
|   > individual packages add what you want...
|
|   My personal opinion is that for servers, there needs to be an option for
|   "No X at all".

Yes, I agree here. There should be an option of MINIMAL install without X 
(and without TCL, TK, etc.)
XF 4.0.1 is pretty easy to add after all, if it is really needed.
But, before adding XF to server setup, I suggest to split 16MB package first.

|
|   The one thing that screws that up is Freetype.  (It is used by PHP.)  Not
|   certain why this could not be statically linked though...

I believe FreeType is OS -independent.
There are some utilities in FreeType 1.3 package, but I think they can be 
splitted to separate RPM which will not require X.
And, it looks like that upcoming FreeType2 will be library-only...

|   When I set up a server box, I do not want X. Over the years it has been
|   harder and harder to get an install to do that cleanly.  (Other than "rm
|   -r /usr/X11R6".)

I would suggest Apache-only setup option as well. You press button, and in 2 
minutes have working server (yes, it took less then 2 minutes on my Pentium 
III to make Expert-Minimal install; even with Xfree isnatlled by default)
Another option: file-server only. To use that server as File Cabinet ...  :-)
In this case, even Apache is not necessary !

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