On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Vadim Plessky wrote:

> |   > In graphical server expert install use slider at minimum and if I
> |   > remember is a working install with less than 200MB .... with select
> |   > individual packages add what you want...
> |
> |   My personal opinion is that for servers, there needs to be an option for
> |   "No X at all".
> 
> Yes, I agree here. There should be an option of MINIMAL install without X 
> (and without TCL, TK, etc.)

What I want is not quite minimal though. When I build a server, I want to
have the tools I choose, but without the X cruft that every install wants
to put there. I assume a "minimal install" will exclude things like
additional Perl modules, MySQL, mod-ssl, mod_php4, and many of the other
useful and server-like things I want to install.

> |   The one thing that screws that up is Freetype.  (It is used by PHP.)  Not
> |   certain why this could not be statically linked though...
> 
> I believe FreeType is OS -independent.
> There are some utilities in FreeType 1.3 package, but I think they can be 
> splitted to separate RPM which will not require X.
> And, it looks like that upcoming FreeType2 will be library-only...

I believe that it has header dependancies on X, but I need to check the
source to make sure.

> |   When I set up a server box, I do not want X. Over the years it has been
> |   harder and harder to get an install to do that cleanly.  (Other than "rm
> |   -r /usr/X11R6".)
> 
> I would suggest Apache-only setup option as well. You press button, and in 2 
> minutes have working server (yes, it took less then 2 minutes on my Pentium 
> III to make Expert-Minimal install; even with Xfree isnatlled by default)
> Another option: file-server only. To use that server as File Cabinet ...  :-)
> In this case, even Apache is not necessary !

I can see a whole series of "Custom Install" options that are
pre-selected. "Firewall box", "FTP server", "Kerberos Keyserver", etc.

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