6 ??????? 2000 22:09, ?? ????????:
|   On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Vadim Plessky wrote:
|   > |   My personal opinion is that for servers, there needs to be an
|   > | option for "No X at all".
|   >
|   > Yes, I agree here. There should be an option of MINIMAL install without
|   > X (and without TCL, TK, etc.)
|
|   What I want is not quite minimal though. When I build a server, I want to
|   have the tools I choose, but without the X cruft that every install wants
|   to put there. I assume a "minimal install" will exclude things like
|   additional Perl modules, MySQL, mod-ssl, mod_php4, and many of the other
|   useful and server-like things I want to install.

Sounds good!  :-)
|   > |   When I set up a server box, I do not want X. Over the years it has
|   > | been harder and harder to get an install to do that cleanly.  (Other
|   > | than "rm -r /usr/X11R6".)
|   >
|   > I would suggest Apache-only setup option as well. You press button, and
|   > in 2 minutes have working server (yes, it took less then 2 minutes on
|   > my Pentium III to make Expert-Minimal install; even with Xfree
|   > isnatlled by default) Another option: file-server only. To use that
|   > server as File Cabinet ...  :-) In this case, even Apache is not
|   > necessary !
|
|   I can see a whole series of "Custom Install" options that are
|   pre-selected. "Firewall box", "FTP server", "Kerberos Keyserver", etc.

Probably I missed it somewhere...
Does "Firewall box" or "FTP server" installs X as well?!..  
I will be very surprised.

As far as I know, there are no "Firewall configuration" or "FTP server 
configuration/settings"  programs,  neither in GNome not KDE2.
What a pity!..
If they were present, may be, I could agree on X install on server box.
>From other side, such tools should allow settings management from client 
workstation, shouldn't they?  
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