Please read to the end, and comment! I may be wrong, and if so, please 
tell me so I know I have to shut up!

(Full install is broken, let's forget it...)

> pixel just told me: "too many buttons" :-(

if (too_many_buttons)
     reorganize();

> you've a patch ?

I guess it would require a modification in the way the questions are 
asked, so I guess that someone just cannot provide you with a patch, you 
would not accept it (otherwise I could do it, but before I need to learn 
Perl! <gasp>).

> minimal install might come alive :-)

Hopefully. What I do not understand is why you do not like the idea. I 
guess you must have some good technical reason. To my point of view, a 
basic way to debug a program is to cut a big problem into smaller 
problems. A small standard install would be a step in the good 
direction, wouldn't it?

(...)
> installation "weight" depend of what packages groups you select, size you
> select, fs size you made.

What about "the Standard Install requires exactly *** MB"? This would 
make things more simple.

> [traceroute] usefull for you.  every package not in the minimal install may not be 
>usefull
> for everybody.  yes, even traceroute.
> for this case, one can prefer tracepath or none.

But this is Mandrake's role to choose the most useful tools, no? Or 
those who have the best ratio 'features/size', in the particular 
"Minimal install" case.
It is a subjective choice that MandrakeSoft has to do for the 
communauty. Choose some apps, one for each category, call that "Standard 
install". People are worried? Then modify your choice, until MOST people 
understand your choice and feel that this piece of software is a good 
compromise between features and size. And provide "after-install" 
alternatives (contribs, etc).

> do you see the problem with _your_ classification between what you called useful
> and unnecessary apps? this attitude is just plain insult for the work we've done
> to answer communauty request for apps.

Please don't take it bad, we are just trying to make LM *even* better! 
We are not criticizing MandrakeSoft work, which is truly amazing for a 
so young company, but I think that the users can help Mdk to ship a 
better product.

Good night,

Gr�goire



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