On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:12 am,  Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
> Le Jeudi 13 Septembre 2001 17:34, srlinuxx scribit :
> > Basically, kmix shows my SoundBlasterLive as a TriTech TR28023 in 8.1 and
> > as a result my main volume adjustment/slider no longer has independent
> > action of the line in that the tv tuner uses.
>
> this is due to the new emu10k1 drivers. I wonder why the identifier is bad.

Not only that, I have absolutely no on-board sound or graphics.  Why is the 
ac97_codec being loaded?  I thought that was strange, but slipped my mind to 
ask about it in original post.
Possibly another indication that something may not be quite right with the 
new emu10k1 module?

> > (There are the two sliders,
> > however, the main volume will adjust the line in volume also).  These two
> > actions were independent up thru 8.0
>
> I prefer this, that sounds more logic : the main volume ( Master ) can
> affect all the volume ( as in windows ).
>

Well, it doesn't work too good for when one might like their system sounds 
low and the tv at a higher volume.  When I turn up main volume loud enough to 
comfortably hear the dialogue on tv the kde system notifications are 
(uncomfortably) too loud.  To me, it sounds more logical the old way. <shrug>

> > and is now a big problem as I have to
> > turn my main volume up so as to hear xawtv (when line in is fully on),
> > but that makes my system sounds too loud.
>
> I don't have this problem ( SBLive Value ! ). Maybe a problem of the
> drivers with the new 5.1 chips.
> decrease PCM.
> Master is about 70%, line ( VCR ) about 30%/50%, mic ( TV card ) the same
> and PCM 50%.

I also have the Sound Blaster Live! Value.  It's about a year or so old, 
before the new (dolby?) 5.1 came out.  PCM has no effect at all, and I'm 
missing some other mixer settings I had in 8.0, such as digital 1 & 2 and 
base & treble (tho digital 2 didn't have an effect).

> > If I turn down main system sounds,
> > line in also decreases - defeating the purpose.
>
> It's the normal behaviour ! See the windows version. It's ther same for
> alsa drivers.

Wonder why they were independent previously?  Was that considered a 
bug/malfunction then and is fixed now?

> > Again, I must stress that
> > this worked perfectly in 8.0 as completely independent actions (the main
> > volume adjust had no effect on line in volume).
>
> I don't know if we can call that perfectly.

Well, given that was my desire... a little subjective, huh?   Maybe poor 
choice of words for a technical mailing list.

> > I know you gentlemen are quite busy, but this is an important issue for
> > me and I'm sure it will to others too as, you probably know, many use
> > SoundBlasterLive cards.
>
> I don't know if they can do something. At least revert to 2.4.8 emu10k1,
> but you'll lose the improvement and the ability to use efficiently the
> emu-tools.

Well, it's been like this for every version of 2.4.8 kernel I've tried (tho I 
only go back to beta1 and the sound didn't work at all in beta1).  I'm not 
aware of any emu-tools.  Could you elaborate?

Well, anyway, I just wanted to make the developers aware of this (and was 
maybe hoping for something).  I still think something may be just a little 
off with the new module.  I hope they at least read this.

thanks sincerely,
srlinuxx  


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