Le Vendredi 14 Septembre 2001 01:32, s scribit :
> On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:12 am, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
> > Le Jeudi 13 Septembre 2001 17:34, srlinuxx scribit :
> > > Basically, kmix shows my SoundBlasterLive as a TriTech TR28023 in 8.1
> > > and as a result my main volume adjustment/slider no longer has
> > > independent action of the line in that the tv tuner uses.
> >
> > this is due to the new emu10k1 drivers. I wonder why the identifier is
> > bad.
>
> Not only that, I have absolutely no on-board sound or graphics. Why is the
> ac97_codec being loaded? I thought that was strange, but slipped my mind
> to ask about it in original post.
> Possibly another indication that something may not be quite right with the
> new emu10k1 module?
maybe but seems to be normal : http://opensource.creative.com/docs.html
again it's a correction, before was bad.
> > > (There are the two sliders,
> > > however, the main volume will adjust the line in volume also). These
> > > two actions were independent up thru 8.0
> >
> > I prefer this, that sounds more logic : the main volume ( Master ) can
> > affect all the volume ( as in windows ).
>
> Well, it doesn't work too good for when one might like their system sounds
> low and the tv at a higher volume. When I turn up main volume loud enough
> to comfortably hear the dialogue on tv the kde system notifications are
> (uncomfortably) too loud. To me, it sounds more logical the old way.
> <shrug>
For me it works perfectly. I increase mic ( Tv card ) or line ( VCR ), I
decrease PCM ( sometimes I can't hear licq notification, but it's true that
it's annoying when you're watching a TV or breaking news ), I set Master at
50%/70%
Did you ever use your SBLive under Windows ?
> > > and is now a big problem as I have to
> > > turn my main volume up so as to hear xawtv (when line in is fully on),
> > > but that makes my system sounds too loud.
> >
> > I don't have this problem ( SBLive Value ! ). Maybe a problem of the
> > drivers with the new 5.1 chips.
> > decrease PCM.
> > Master is about 70%, line ( VCR ) about 30%/50%, mic ( TV card ) the same
> > and PCM 50%.
>
> I also have the Sound Blaster Live! Value. It's about a year or so old,
> before the new (dolby?) 5.1 came out. PCM has no effect at all, and I'm
> missing some other mixer settings I had in 8.0, such as digital 1 & 2 and
> base & treble (tho digital 2 didn't have an effect).
concerning bass treble : emu-tools http://opensource.creative.com/dist.html
http://how.to/sblive
> > > If I turn down main system sounds,
> > > line in also decreases - defeating the purpose.
> >
> > It's the normal behaviour ! See the windows version. It's ther same for
> > alsa drivers.
>
> Wonder why they were independent previously? Was that considered a
> bug/malfunction then and is fixed now?
For me it's a malfunction. I consider that the windows drivers and Creative
tools are the the reference. if the linux drivers doesn't act in the same way
it's a malfunction. It's more logic.
Master volume normally is for the output of the card, so it affects all the
others settings ( mic, PCM, line ). that's sounds logical for me and if you
try alsa drivers or another sound card you will have the same behaviour.
> > > Again, I must stress that
> > > this worked perfectly in 8.0 as completely independent actions (the
> > > main volume adjust had no effect on line in volume).
> >
> > I don't know if we can call that perfectly.
>
> Well, given that was my desire... a little subjective, huh? Maybe poor
> choice of words for a technical mailing list.
Given the fact my english is very bad ...
> > > I know you gentlemen are quite busy, but this is an important issue for
> > > me and I'm sure it will to others too as, you probably know, many use
> > > SoundBlasterLive cards.
> >
> > I don't know if they can do something. At least revert to 2.4.8 emu10k1,
> > but you'll lose the improvement and the ability to use efficiently the
> > emu-tools.
>
> Well, it's been like this for every version of 2.4.8 kernel I've tried (tho
> I only go back to beta1 and the sound didn't work at all in beta1). I'm
> not aware of any emu-tools. Could you elaborate?
AC3 pass-through
5.1 support
With them we can finally correctly use the possibilities of the SBLive (
compare to what we could do under windows it was a pity under linux ). maybe
I will try to do a front end as it lacks.
This will install 2 command-line executable: 'emu-dspmgr' and 'emu-config'
emu-dspmgr - A tool for configuring the cards dsp patch management system
(e.g for loading "effects", or routing an input to an output)
emu-config - A tool for configuring the card (e.g. toggling the analog/digital
output, selecting recording modes, etc)
Also, several ".bin" dsp patches will be installed in
/usr/local/share/emu10k1/
you can load these patches using emu-dspmgr. A description of each effect
is provided in /usr/local/share/emu10k1/README
The driver may need to be configured appropriately for your card/speaker
combo.
The driver should work out-of-the-box for most situations unless the following
apply:
-You want bass/treble control
-You have a '5.1' card with digital speakers
-You want to use AC3 Pass-through
-You're the type of person who likes to learn and customize things.
-You want to enable an input on your Live-drive or digital add-on card
> Well, anyway, I just wanted to make the developers aware of this (and was
> maybe hoping for something). I still think something may be just a little
> off with the new module. I hope they at least read this.
--
Copyleft Faber's prod. 2001
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