On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 01:38, Marcel Pol wrote:
> On 02 Dec 2001 00:09:25 -0600
> Lance Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >     I "successfully" upgraded my LM80 box from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2 using
> >     binaries from cooker, but all the icons disappeared.
<snip>
> Cooker and mdk8.0 or mdk8.1 are not the same distro.
> The libpng packags are different, and that's only the start.
> If you want to run Cooker, then run Cooker. 
<snip>

The cooker "snobbery" that has developed on this list in the past 12
months (and more dramatically in the last six) is rather disheartening. 
Yes, cooker is an unstable (sometimes unusable) distribution.  Yes, it
is intended primarily for use by those who Know What They Are Doing
(tm).  But this is really going too far in discouraging
upgrades/testing.

If there are problems upgrading to the latest superxyz-9.5.3-1mdk
package and that problem can be attributed to a change in libraries,
then great.  But if the package installed cleanly (i.e. no --force or
--nodeps) and something the package required isn't there, then there is
a dependency issue.

When would you rather hit these problems?  Now, in the middle of a
development cycle, or a few months down the road when Joe User is trying
to "upgrade" his 8.[01] box to 8.2 and suddenly has a broken superxyz.

I have been a Mandrake user since 6.0 and followed this list since 6.1. 
Yes, using cooker packages can be dangerous, and may require upgrading
many packages on the system.  But, the fact that somebody's machine had
[6-8].[0-2] as the last install doesn't mean that he isn't presenting a
valid problem.  (As for me, this particular box is a hybrid of old and
new packages from several vendors that runs well and hasn't seen an
install disk since 6.1)

In short, please stop flaming people for not riding the edge 24x7.  If
they satisfied all depends and it broke, then there may be a genuine
problem.

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