--- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SI Reasoning wrote:
> 
> > --- tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>Do you have any idea how many people submitted bug
> >>reports bexcause APIC 
> >>was off and their machines would not boot the
> >>installer?  Almost 
> >>everyone with multiprocessors and more than 2 IDE
> >>channels.
> >>
> >>Obviously we are trying to see what the effects
> are
> >>each way, and there 
> >>might be an alternate install image, but the
> problem
> >>is that people 
> >>never look for those.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > At least we know where the problems are. If there
> are
> > no other major issues then it sounds like it
> should be
> > enabled for the smp kernel. Hoever, more than 2
> ide's
> > is not as standard as a laptop and I think it
> should
> > be disabled in the standard kernel. This looks
> like
> > something that may be best setup as a module at
> some
> > point.
> > 
> It _is_ enabled in the SMP kernel but it is also a
> UP kernel to install with and it strill fails.
> 
> 
> 
> As a matter of fact our failure rate on laptops is
> very high, APIC or 
> not.  That is because there are a lot of dodges
> employed by laptop 
> makers and compatibility with standards is restored
> by software they 
> write for windows.  If you have ever tried to
> install windows on any 
> laptop without the restore disk or restore CD, you
> know well of what I 
> speak.
> 
> And the particular one you speak of is best served
> by an alternate 
> install kernel and an alternate running kernel
> because there is a huge 
> BIOS bug as well.  Try to run kernel 2.4 from anyone
> with 512M of RAM 
> and you will see "bad bridge mapping" errors.  The

hmmm I have 512 meg ram on my Dell Inspiron 8000, and
I checked my logs for this error message and could not
find it.

> APIC error is also a 
> BIOS bug--have seen it before on an inspiron that
> was trying everything 
> to run kernel 2.4 with 512M.  He ended up running
> kernel 2.2 and writing 
> to Dell.
> 
> Civileme

There were some problems before with the 2.4.16 series
kernel (pre APIC) that I was able to route around. The
suspend is pretty worthless since it hard freezes so I
had to disable it in the bios. I suspect it is an
XFree issue though since I did not have the freeze
problem when I suspended in init 3. It actually
suspended properly and came back properly. I have an
ATI M4 video chipset.

However since APIC it has become a total nightmare and
it has become way to easy to freeze it.

=====
SI Reasoning
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"There never was a good war or a bad peace."
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