On 20020131 SI Reasoning wrote: >I disagree, >first, this is a major problem as it completely >freezes the box and it has to be turned off manually. >
OK >second, when you release a distribution it needs to be >able to run on as many boxes as possible without major >crashes, if you can turn off an item and it creates >more stable boxes, then you are less likely to lose >people, especially newbies > Then disable DMA for ide drives, it can crash on some ServerWorks boxes. So put all Linux users down to slowliness because the implementation of a feature (read DMA or APIC) is broken in certain hardware (ServerWorks or Inspiron). The DMA problem is easy to solve, it can be disabled selectively depending on chipset. I do not know if it can be done also with apic. But but will happen if not ? Would you release a distro without DMA ? >thirdly, this is a feature that more experienced users >will take advantage of and they are more than >qualified to rebuild their kernel. Mandrake is geared >towards user friendlyness and having your system crash >so easily is not user friendly. > A newbie without a feature will just see his box is much slower than windows, and think 'mdk sucks'. >Because the Fn key is right next to the Ctrl key, >there has been quite a few times that I am trying to >change desktops and end up freezing the system. > ?? >Finally, this feature has recently been turned on in >the kernel, prior kernels, esp in the 2.4.16 and prior >did not have this turned on. It is not an improvement >when the stock kernel creates more problems as it >progresses forward. Let the maintainers of APIC >resolve some of these issues and make this feature >more stable across many different types of boxes >before it becomes part of the default kernel. > Changelog from mandrake kernel: * Mon Mar 05 2001 Juan Quintela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.2-7mdk ... - Use APIC also now on uniprocessor. And you always can boot with noapic on BUGGY boxes. -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.18-pre7-slb #2 SMP Thu Jan 31 00:35:23 CET 2002 i686
