Ron - keep up the good work.
Mandrake folks - ditto, but either let's have a deep freeze or let's get
Cooker fixed - you can't deep freeze a wildly moving target.

As a quality engineer, I think Ron has a legitimate complaint about the
response to his defect report - one of his drives is rendered unusable by
rogue modifications to lilo.conf via an action that no reasonable user would
expect to modify lilo.conf.  IN THE ABSENCE of documented defect
classification, life cycle and escalation/resolution policies, and in the
absence of documented target-user profiles eliminating users with multiple
optical drives, this does sound like a defect that could affect a
potentially significant population of users.  Personally, I'd be willing to
bet that at least one reviewer will be bitten by this - and Mandrake really
needs as smooth sailing in the review press as we can possibly get.

8.2 CAN be the best Mandrake ever - if not the best Linux ever.  I've been
using Mandrake since 7.1 and have NOT been happy with the intervening
releases' stability on any of my systems.  It's great to have the latest and
greatest kernel and packages - and people will put up with a certain amount
of fit and finish polishing... but to have what (to the user or reviewer)
appear to be casual and obvious inconsistencies is not the way to
effectively compete against Red Hat - let alone Windows.

Thanks, everybody!

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-------Original Message-------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, March 15, 2002 03:41:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW
STOPPER!

Pixel wrote:
>
> - this is much too late, we're in deep freeze

Judging by the rate of changes to Cooker, you most certainly are not in
any deep freeze.

> - bug report must give more information to be helpful

That is not possible, and not a way out for you. Find the problem &
fix it.

> - please choose an appropriate "Subject:"
> - this is of course not a show stopper, even if I agree it would be nicer
if
> this kind of bug would be fixed (I tried some upgrades and my fstab was
> correct after upgrading)

me too, over 50 of them for 8.2 so far. You see that 49 is not a
sufficient number to uncover all the bugs. The simplest explain is
that the partition number is occasionally corrupted (5 changed to 7 in
this case) on the earliest /etc/fstab read, but not for the writeback.

BTW, thanks for the package only update option.

> - your messages are much too agressive
> => i usually don't read your mails

Ho hum. I an just honestly reflecting back to you what it is like out
here with Cooker so far. That is a fair service. I regret your
attitude, but it is field reality, is it not?

--
Ron. [au]


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