On Monday 18 March 2002 22:12, Plug Head wrote:
> > <SNIP!>
> > (when in deep freeze only
> > big problems are taken into account others are devnulled)
>
> So, when I install Mandrake on my notebook (this isn't cutting edge here,
> we're talking P2/333) and the PCMCIA netcard Just Doesn't Work, that's not
> a "big problem"?  Having the network "Wizard" foul things up, after I've
> spent a day getting it working, isn't a "big problem"?  (My netcard happens
> to be a Linksys, but the postings I've seen suggest that many have the same
> problem, and not just with netcards.)
>
> This is not a kernel issue, since it _can_ be made to work, with enough
> tweaking of pcmcia/config  (Assuming, of course, that you know enough to
> stay away from auto-defect.)  AFAIK, this has been an issue since 8.0 (and
> certainly since 8.1).  As of 8.2rc1 it still hasn't been addressed.
>
> I know you're stressed--try to understand that I _want_ Mandrake to
> succeed.  I only have two hopes: 1) you'll release an 8.2.1 ISO, once
> things have settled down and you have time to make a stable version, 2)
> Next time you'll allow for a longer "freeze" period, so some of these
> issues can be resolved _before_ release.
>
> --plughead;   // a paying mandrakeclub member
>
> =========================
> 'And trust no-- Trust practically no-one. All right? Except trustworthy
> people.'
> (Jingo)

Well it might be a kernel issue, but a kernel/pcmcia issue. The big problem 
is with plug and play handling under pcmcia. I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 and 
back when 2.4.whatever it was came out that dropped the pnp bios handling 
pcmcia was crap without tweaking the pcmcia config file, this was actually 
due to a fscked bios which put everything on IRQ11, but the kernel needed pnp 
bios resource checking to defeat this automatically, if you compile your own 
kernel not using the built in yentle_socket pcmcia drivers you find in the 
kernel, but instead compile your kernel without pcmcia support, then compile 
your own pcmcia-cs packages and tell it 'y' when asked about pnp bios 
resource checking you may find your pcmcia works fine.

It was Linus' idea to drop pnp support then, and afaik the yenta_socket 
drivers don't do it either, and if Mandrake went a re-wrote the linux kernel 
for their own use it wouldn't be Mandrake Linux, Maybe mandrake Minux or 
something. ;)



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