Other points where made about forcing installs/removes - I agree, they should not be available *at all* - if someone needs to force an install/uninstall or do something non simple, thats what the command line is for :)
Fine, keep the gui simple for simple and leave command line for experience.
I preferred all the info in one spot, as it was.
If the reason behind the break up was to integrate it into the control panel, thats fine, make those new components show up in the control panel, but I, for one, don't use the control panel. I use the more capable separate tools. The old tool should have remained.
I still thing the current way of doing things sux. Mandrake took a step backwards on this one. Sorry but thats my opinion.
...Lyall
On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 17:46, Eric Fernandez wrote:
Gary Greene wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Tuesday 22 October 2002 06:55 pm, Stephen Pickering wrote: > > >>rpmdrake should return to the original single installer / uninstaller with >>options to force install/remove only (for the unexperienced). >> >> > >First, Guillaume has stated several times thta we cannot go back to the other >version of rpmdrake, due Mdk not having a graphical C/Gtk programmer on the >team. > Right, but what is the relationship between the language and the GUI concept ? I can understand the changes : they wanted to integrate rpmdrake to the whole control center, which is a good idea. Actually, the tabs of the previous rpmdrake have been replaced by buttons in the CC. However, the ease of use has decreased. To perform as simple operations as packages search, I prefer to use urpmq in the console. This is a sign the GUI is not very convenient for that. I am sure the new perl rpmdrake is a very good idea (and perl is an easy language, so it can be patched by a lot of people in the community). However, it can still be improved, whatever the language is. >Second, forcing an install/remove is the WORST thing that you can allow >for a newbie that has no prior Linux experience. Hell, when I first started >using Linux I was using SuSE at the time and it had the option IN THE >INSTALLER to force install stuff without the deps. Of course this meant that >I had to spend a few days of reinstalling since I had b0rkd my installs bad. >It was only my roommate Aaron that showed me the reason behind the madness >that are dependancies. > I totally second that. > > > >>And bring back the feature that showed which version is currently >>installed. >> >> > >You already have that feature. Just right click on the right pane to show more >information about the selected package, including source and current >installed version. > Maybe this could be shown by default. Or use an "advanced" button to show extended information. Eric
