021214 Warly wrote:
> "francesco.melo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> better  to have a single big iso in the mirror and burn it in a dvd-+r .
>> is it possible?
> Yes. It is possible. But is it interesting for Mandrakesoft?
> 
> You can do it by yourself, moreover, it is quite simple.
> 
> The great idea behind our economical model, is that we let for free
> what we are doing, although we still need to eat, to pay our rents,
> and even sometimes to get some holidays (this is not necessary for a
> man to survive, I accept, except maybe regarding gc and snowboard, but
> it is another story). And users who use it, or like it, can contribute
> back to mandrake buying a box, subscribing to mandrakeclub, helping a
> lot on cooker, advocating, pressuring other people to use it, sending
> food to developers (warning no more nuts, this makes them become fat
> and inefficient), or whatever.
> 
> Theoretically this model is ideal. Everyone can try or product for a
> very little price, either downloading it or finding it in magazine,
> and contribute what he can afford, or what he thinks that worths.
> 
> Mandrakelinux 9.0 DVD edition is 60 euros on Mandrakestore.
> 
> 60 euros! It is so expensive! I can just download the images
> and burn them on a 10 euros blank DVD!
> 
> Yes.
> 
> But what will we earn if I put a DVD image on the mirrors?
> 
> - You will be happy
> 
> - You will pay 10 euros for a blank DVD. Most of it go to mitsui or
> Taiyo Yuden, and if you are in France you even pay some taxes that
> will go to film or music majors, or even microsoft. Of course we get
> nothing from these taxes are our products are free.
> 
> - You have alreay payed 500 euros to sony or yamaha or pioneer for
> your burner.
> 
> So the only point for me will be point 1, point 2 and 3 will just made
> microsoft, sony, vivendi even more powerful, and make our work even harder.
> 
> I do not care if you are copying tens for divx films and mp3 and
> windows games and whatever. After all if Mandrakesoft dies it is just
> that we were not strong enough, or not intelligent enough. Because we
> did not work as hard as we should, or we were payed to much, or we
> were too many...
> 
> Why have you bought a DVD burner for?
> 
> I could not blame you, I did the same with my first CD burner.
> 
> Part of the gnu/linux success is because it is free, and because people
> can get and use it for free. In our world we can get nearly everything
> with money, and we think that just everything can be compared in terms
> of dollars or euros. And in this world, gnu/linux distributions are
> just a good bargain.
> 
> But it may exists another world where money is not so important, and
> where you pay with time, with helping others, with not thinking selfishly.
> 
> In this world, gnu/linux is not free, it is even more expensive than
> whatever you can afford with money, because it need _you_ to think
> and act in another way.
> 
> The world will not change if we do not first change ourselves.

this is an excellent account of the spirit behind Mandrake!
why not tidy it up a bit & post it on the Mandrake WWW site?
maybe tell LWN or Linux Today about it?

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