On Tuesday 17 December 2002 05:03, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 07:31:10PM +0100, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Isn't Dish dvb-compatible ? Hmm really don't know. Nut I think you are > > right. > > Two things about Dish. First, they are in the US only. I am in > Canada. Lucky for us Canadians, we have the Canadian governement > protecting us from true competition in the satellite services market. > In the best interest of Canadians, the government creates false > economies and markets and gives the rights to supply the demand for > services to a few select companies (I often wonder how they got the > rights to service the deman). As you could guess, our content is > limited and the costs of service high. We have a whole two suppliers > of satellite services and I am sure they love it. > > Second, I don't think it's "clear" DVB. I think there is some kind of > encryption, for which I would need a "MAC" (I think that's the term). > Bell ExpressVu do the same sorta thing. They broadcast in DVB, but > it's encrypted by Nagravision. > Hmmm I know encryption is a littlebit a problem. But there are people using the german Premiere (pay-TV) with vdr. What you meant is a cam (common access modul) and a ci. Yes as I wrote I really don't know about your situation to much. And you may be right in what you have said.
> > Not only some, a lot for that card, last time I looked. Anyway, ebay has > > much to high prices, at least on computer-hardware. > > Huh? Check this link: > > http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&SortProperty=MetaEndSort >&query=Matrox+G400&from=R8&ht=1&combine=y&st=2 > > US$10, 15, 20? That is too much for a dual head AGP video card that > has the TV-Out capabilities of the G400? > yes for sure, but shipping from US/canada to europe will be more expensive than the card I guess. Have a look here: http://search.ebay.de/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=g400+matrox&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.de%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&shortcut=4&BasicSearch= > > Maybe an mpeg2encoderboard is the right thing for you ? > > It's not the same as DVB. The difference between DVB and an MPEG2 > encoder on analog cable is like the difference between getting an MP3 > of a CD and having to record it to MP3 from FM radio. Not even to > mention that there is no MPEG2 encoder for Linux available. The > PVR-250 seems like it's getting close and there was a Kfir chip out > there but I think that's been discontinued. > > > They will nearly cost > > the same as an dvb-card. > > But the DVB card is just so much better. The whole idea is better. > Getting the actual MPEG2 is way better than regenerating from an > analog copy of it. > Yes sure. At least you know best whats the situation at there you live. And I think there is a demand for the dvb-driver to work better with cam/ci. hopefully this will improve. > > Have a look at linuxtv.org Or the WinTV PVR or some > > MotionJpeg Captureboards > > The PVR-250 could happen, but MJPEG is sub-optimal. There is no > intra-frame compression, just frame-by-frame jpeg compression. You > would lose a lot of bandwidth without the intraframe compression. > Yes Mjpeg eats a lot of diskspace while having the best quality. What you said about the Kfir board I'm not sure. I think the author of vdr is using such a card for connect a digital sat-receiver to his vdr. So I'm not sure if the really discontinued it. > > Yes the same here. The people mainly don't understand whats going on and > > what are the results and if they feel the results the start to worry. It > > looks like the politicians are only lobbyists, nothing more. They don't > > really care, what they do . > > Yeah, but Europeans seem to stand up for their rights more. > Hopefully. At the moment they want a law for enabling software-patents here in europe too and too they will have a european DMCA. I really hate this lobbyists. There are laws making copying and sharing trough the internet illegal. But they want us to not making privat copys. And enabling softwarepatents is the best way to kill free software. whhaa thinkin about all that gets me really angry. > > Indeed realtime transcoding can be done. > > I wouldn't even care for that. My main source of material would be > what I got via the DVB card anyway. For the odd divx I downloaded, I > would just transcode off-line. > > > The DVB-cards can be feeded with > > mpeg1 to. > > MPEG2 is better suited to interlaced data. > > > On my machine I've 50-60 % CPU on realtime-transcoding divx => > > dvb-out > > > > A pitty that you can't use vdr .... > > It's not so much that I can't use vdr, but that I can't get DVB. vdr > is not the loss, DVB is. > > b. Ok but if you would have DVB you really would want vdr ;) A link you may be interested in : http://www.eet.com/sys/news/OEG20021213S0034 Greets Steffen -- ____________________ counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 ____________________ Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks
