On Friday 10 January 2003 23:10, Pierre Fortin wrote: > The point is that if Mandrake wants to grow its user base, it shouldn't > make things more difficult than necessary for the sake of trying to save a > few pennies by cramming the ISOs to the point where a lot of people won't > be able to burn them...
Yes I think so too, I thought only off people can't burn such images, not that there will be people who can't read them, sorry > > My point was that they should *work* -- ohphone never worked in 9.0 > If those of us who support remote customers can't use ohphone as in the > past, our support costs have gone up because we have to pay for LD. For > that reason, I consider ohphone just as important as ssh... > For you ;) But if it is in the distro it should work however this ohphone is important. > > Never saw problems here. Indeed I had such problems on 8.2. Kde and > > mandrake is rockstable on my machine. > > What's your uptime? Mine is a "whopping": > 4:51pm up 2 days, 19:09, 14 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > ^^^^^^ I had it running for more then 2 weeks without becoming unstable (with Xon and kde running) My current uptime isn't worth to show since I plugged off a hd today. > and I *HATE* rebooting... I use the laptop sleep mode; but that can only > be used 2-3 times before needing a reboot... > Ok this may clear some things. I've a normal workstation (duron1,1/kt133a-chipset) running allmost the whole time on converting video or compiling) > > > 4. installation of lisa and samba after I carefully requested NO > > > Windows/Samba related s/w of any sort. > > > > Haven't encountered this. On my machine it was not the case. > > "lisa" is not running...? I'm surprised... > Maybe since I install only a groundsystem and urpmi it up as I need it. > > That sounds strange. Maybe a missconfigured CUPS ? > > and *how* does a working CUPS config suddenly become misconfigured on its > own... LOCAL printer has to wait for CUPS trying to connect on port 631 > to my IP gateway...??? > > > > 9. miscellaneous other nits > > > > I really can'tz confirm your problems. Mandrake 9.0 was the fastest , > > rockstablest version I ever used ( I'm a user of mandrake since 6.1) > > Me too since 6.1, RH before that; but it appears we have different results > -- mine are on IBM ThinkPad. > Mine as stated above. Really fine here. And one particular thing was better then ever : ISDN - the first release I got it runnin under 30s . On all releases before it was a pain in the *** > > > > Note that Linux is touted as a no-reboot-required OS... I have had to > > > reboot 9.0 so many times that it feels like I must have accidentally > > > installed W9x... :^P > > > > Can't confirm that. I have usually an uptime of 7-14 days and the > > reboots then are not caused by the OS , more by power-faults, or > > rebooting for changing hardware. > > I have UPS systems and the laptop has a good battery, and uptimes of less > than a week on laptop are not a good sign when I'm the guy who would be > ecstatic if it were possible to install new distro on a running system and > "switch-over" without rebooting... but that's still way off in the > future... > Yes I guess so. But at this time Mandrake has enough other problems ;) > > This I can't second. There should be for sure a possibility to solve > > bugs in a release (better reporting, faster updates). But if cooker is > > the right place for it ? I would vote for a release bugzilla ! > > Regardless of the mechanism, a cultural change where release bugs have > equal or higher priority to cooker would benefit everyone, esp. Mdk. > Cans second on that. It is fearing to not to know there to reporting bugs and feel that nobody is interested in my bugs > > I think they are working on it. And there is a lot moving on it. So I > > can't understand your angry and flaming kind of speaking. And to say you > > will not respond to flaming while you for yourself are doing so I really > > dislike. > > > and if it's loooong, some ISOs that some non-cooker regulars to hammer on > would be helpful... > Yes and with that some longer periods between beta releases. So for outside-cooker people testing can be done at all (I can't have a cooker version with my ISDN-connection, asking a friend for downloading it over DSL may take some time but I can get it (or just buy it in an internet-isoshop I wouldn't fear if the period between beta releases is longer. Steffen -- ____________________ counter.li.org : #296567. machine: 181800 vdr-box : 87 ____________________ Please dont CC me, since if I have replied I'll watch the tread. Both mails will be filtered to the ML-folder. Thanks
