Warly wrote:
> Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We switched to 700 MB for the 9.0 first cooker snapshot, and then we did
> not have real complain for the 4 betas and 2 RC published, why should we have
> switch back to 650 MB then?

AFAIK, most problems like this will appear on older machines, which
probably don't get used for beta-testing.

I didn't think this was a problem, since the two machines I tested
betas/rcs on are ok, and it's only now that I am upgrading some older
machines that I have seen this.

> 
> After 9.0 some person complain and I made 650 MB version for club members.

Thanks, I think a lot of people appreciated it, but it doesn't help
everyone. Downloads from non-local (local being
ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/iso-images/mandrake, which is free) cost us
$0.15/MB*2GB=$300, or have to try over weekends at 28-56k :-(.

> 
> Now what do you want?
> 
> 650 MB, 700 MB, 680 MB?
> 

Never had a problem with a 650MB ISO.

> I can do whatever you want, with 650 MB you will just have 150 MB less of
> packages 
> 

Debateable ...

> I do not want to use the free space of the third CD because this space
> is used in the commercial version. If I use it, then the download version
> will not be exactly the same as the boxed version, and could lead to 
> problems such as what we had in 8.2.

That's if you limit to 3 CDs for the boxed set. If you do something like
this:
-Use GPL CDs for boxed sets (yes, include hdlists for the commercial CD)
-Make the commercial CD the 4th

Then:
-you know that the GPL CDs and the first 3 CDs of the boxed set (at
least standard) are identical, this may help pressing?
-You can sell a commerial-only CD for $10 which has NVidia drivers etc
so people can use their GPL CDs and still get the commercial stuff.
-You can include updates (of hslists will not be available at install
time, but the updates section at the end of the install could support
this?) that are available when the commercial CDs get pressed. Then you
can probably justify increasing the cost of Standard by a few $ to pay
for the extra CD.

But, you may want to see how many MandrakeClub members voted for 650MB
ISOs, as I may just be exaggerating the urgency of this due to the
frustration at how hard a simple thing like this makes an installation,
which we know should normally be flawless.

Thanks for looking at this,
Regards,
Buchan

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