Hi Richard, all, 

Thank you for the clarification. A couple of points initially: 

- The proposal that you are quoting is a draft text, intended as input to a 
community discussion - obviously it should not be regarded as final, and any 
sections that are unclear or problematic should be refined over the coming 
weeks.
[Text of the draft proposal is available at: 
https://www.ripe.net/iana-oversight-transition]

- The text was published prior to the announcement of the proposed Consolidated 
RIR IANA Stewardship Proposal (CRISP) team that was referred to in my earlier 
mail. The CRISP team proposal will likely have some implications for the RIPE 
community proposal text. 
[Text of the CRISP team proposal is available at: https://nro.net/crisp-team]

It is expected that the RIPE community will finalise its proposal in early 
December, and pass this to the proposed CRISP team, who will be responsible for 
producing a consolidated proposal from all five RIR communities. 

If I understand correctly, your question is whether this consolidated proposal 
will be circulated back to the five RIR communities for discussion before being 
passed to the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG) on (or 
before) 15 January. 

The CRISP proposal noted in my earlier mail specifies that all work by the 
CRISP team will be conducted on public mailing lists and teleconferences, 
allowing for the community to monitor this consolidation process as it occurs. 
It is likely that the CRISP team would plan to circulate a consolidated 
proposal back to the five RIR communities (either via [email protected] 
mailing list or the individual community forums), but the details of that 
process will be something for the CRISP team to decide. Obviously it would 
entail a trade-off in terms of time for their own work and deliberation. 

Community input and feedback would be a major factor in that decision, so I 
would urge anyone with strong feelings on this or any other aspects of the RIPE 
or CRISP proposals to raise their concerns explicitly on this mailing list. 

At the same time, I would encourage anyone supportive of the current proposals 
to voice that support. 

Best regards,
Chris




On 17 Oct 2014, at 18:08, Richard Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Chris,
> 
> Thank you for this but, no, it does not answer my question.
> 
> My question was not related to the global process, it was specifically
> directed at RIPE.
> 
> Again, here is my question:
> 
>> [The message from RIPE] says "The RIPE community asks the RIPE NCC to
> complete the [IANA
>> transition] proposal and to submit it to the ICG before January 15th
> 2015."
>> 
>> Does RIPE NCC refer to the staff of the RIR?  That is, is the proposal
> going
>> to be written by the staff and directly submitted to the ICG?
>> 
>> Or is the proposal going to be submitted for discussion to this (or some
>> other) mailing list?
> 
> Best,
> Richard
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Buckridge [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: vendredi, 17. octobre 2014 01:38
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: RIPE Cooperation Working Group
>> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard, all,
>> 
>> Today the five RIRs published a proposal for a Consolidated RIR
>> IANA Stewardship Proposal (CRISP) team that will be responsible
>> for consolidating IANA stewardship proposals from the five RIR
>> communities into a single Internet numbering community proposal
>> to the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG).
>> 
>> More information on this is available at:
>> https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/con
> solidated-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team
> 
> The proposal establishes a group of 15 individuals, drawn from the RIR
> communities and staff, who will work via public teleconferences and a new
> public mailing list:
> https://www.nro.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer
> 
> All are welcome to comment on this proposal; assuming the current proposal
> is acceptable to the community, an open call for community representatives
> to participate on the CRISP team will be issued shortly.
> 
> I hope this goes some way to answering your question.
> 
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 
> 
> On 16 Oct 2014, at 15:54, Richard Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I refer to the message at:
>> 
>> 
> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/cooperation-wg/2014-October/000620.
>> html
>> 
>> It says "The RIPE community asks the RIPE NCC to complete the [IANA
>> transition] proposal and to submit it to the ICG before January 15th
> 2015."
>> 
>> Does RIPE NCC refer to the staff of the RIR?  That is, is the proposal
> going
>> to be written by the staff and directly submitted to the ICG?
>> 
>> Or is the proposal going to be submitted for discussion to this (or some
>> other) mailing list?
>> 
>> Please recall that the IANA transition process is supposed to involve the
>> global multi-stakeholder community, and not just the RIPE community.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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