Thanks Tim - yes, that is what I have been doing subsequently also
On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Tim Gruene <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Tim - yes, that is what I have been doing subsequently.  This seems to 
be different to Coot’s behavior in the past though, or am I misremembering? 

I seem to recall that in the past, when merging two chains of the same name, 
the chains would always be renamed to avoid renumbering issues - the current 
behavior is better in some situations, for sure, but not in all situations, I 
think.

Also coot seems to be sometimes creating “dummy molecules” for want of a better 
word when I copy molecules - additional molecules that are present in the 
display manager but do not seem to exist otherwise.

Oliver.

> Dear Oliver,
> 
> there is a simple work-around: first merge, then renumber. I learned
> this the hard way, too, and learned it quickly ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Tim
> 
> On 03/18/2014 12:30 AM, Oliver Clarke wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Coot seems to be renumbering residues when I merge chains, even when the 
>> numbering of the chains does not overlap. This seems like a bug? 
>> 
>> It only seems to happen when I am merging helices placed with coot (which 
>> incidentally seem to lack chain IDs by default now). It is a little 
>> dismaying to find after having carefully renumbered many individual helices 
>> that all the numbers have changed after merging the helices together in a 
>> single molecule.
>> 
>> I am running Coot 0.8-pre r4966 on Ubuntu 13.10.
>> 
>> Oliver.
>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:00 PM, COOT automatic digest system 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are 7 messages totaling 427 lines in this issue.
>>> 
>>> Topics of the day:
>>> 
>>> 1. Per chain ramachandran? (2)
>>> 2. Delete chain
>>> 3. unable to launch coot (4)
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:59:49 -0400
>>> From:    Oliver Clarke <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Per chain ramachandran?
>>> 
>>> Hi all, is there anyway to access/modify the Ramachandran plot display via 
>>> a python or scheme function? 
>>> 
>>> I would like to display a Ramachandran plot calculated just for the 
>>> currently selected protein chain. do_ramachandran() only seems to take a 
>>> molecule number, not chain ID. 
>>> 
>>> In cases where there many chains in the asymmetric unit, I think this would 
>>> be useful while building.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Oliver.
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:00:50 +0000
>>> From:    Oliver Clarke <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Delete chain
>>> 
>>> I realised the script I posted previously to delete a chain doesn't take 
>>> account of insertion codes etc.
>>> 
>>> The attached script hopefully fixes that and adds a couple of other widgets 
>>> that I find useful into a "Custom" menu (when placed in the 
>>> ~/.coot-preferences  directory).
>>> 
>>> Oliver.
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:21:31 +0000
>>> From:    Andreas Förster <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Per chain ramachandran?
>>> 
>>> I second that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14/03/2014 2:59, Oliver Clarke wrote:
>>>> Hi all, is there anyway to access/modify the Ramachandran plot display via 
>>>> a python or scheme function?
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to display a Ramachandran plot calculated just for the 
>>>> currently selected protein chain. do_ramachandran() only seems to take a 
>>>> molecule number, not chain ID.
>>>> 
>>>> In cases where there many chains in the asymmetric unit, I think this 
>>>> would be useful while building.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Oliver.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>>                  Andreas Förster
>>>     Crystallization and X-ray Facility Manager
>>>           Centre for Structural Biology
>>>              Imperial College London
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:23:42 +0000
>>> From:    Ignacio Mir Sanchis <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: unable to launch coot
>>> 
>>> Dear cooters,
>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
>>> Scott lab web page 
>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>> 
>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>> 
>>> Nacho
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:47:17 -0400
>>> From:    Scott Horowitz <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>> 
>>> On that note, I actually recently assigned 60 students to do an assignment
>>> for class using Coot to solve the structure of a protein using maps
>>> downloaded from EDS. And almost every student who had mavericks on their
>>> mac had major issues getting it to work. Older versions of OS X were fine.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> PS The students loved the assignment- I highly recommend trying it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from
>>>> Scott lab web page (
>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up
>>>> )
>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>> 
>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Nacho
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
>>> Research Associate
>>> Howard Hughes Medical Institute
>>> 
>>> University of Michigan
>>> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
>>> Bardwell lab
>>> 830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>>> phone: 734-647-6683
>>> fax: 734-615-4226
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:11:28 -0700
>>> From:    "William G. Scott" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>> 
>>> Dear Nacho:
>>> 
>>> The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably 
>>> broke the “stable” coot package.
>>> 
>>> Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).
>>> 
>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot
>>> 
>>> Sorry,
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
>>>> Scott lab web page 
>>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>> 
>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Nacho
>>> 
>>> William G. Scott
>>> Professor
>>> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
>>> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
>>> University of California at Santa Cruz
>>> Santa Cruz, California 95064
>>> USA
>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/scottlab/
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:40:42 -0700
>>> From:    "William G. Scott" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>> 
>>> I am updating the “stable” coot in fink to rev. 4965 which should work fine 
>>> with the latest rkdit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:11 AM, William G. Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear Nacho:
>>>> 
>>>> The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably 
>>>> broke the “stable” coot package.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).
>>>> 
>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry,
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
>>>>> Scott lab web page 
>>>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>>> 
>>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nacho
>>>> 
>>>> William G. Scott
>>>> Professor
>>>> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
>>>> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
>>>> University of California at Santa Cruz
>>>> Santa Cruz, California 95064
>>>> USA
>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/scottlab/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> End of COOT Digest - 13 Mar 2014 to 14 Mar 2014 (#2014-40)
>>> **********************************************************
>> 
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