This definitely seems like a bug… even when I change the chain IDs beforehand, 
coot is still changing all the chain IDs back to A and renumbering when I merge 
the molecules. 

I can get around that by doing PDB manipulations elsewhere, but it used to work 
very well in coot.

Oliver.

On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Oliver Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Tim - yes, that is what I have been doing subsequently also
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Tim Gruene <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Tim - yes, that is what I have been doing subsequently.  This seems to 
> be different to Coot’s behavior in the past though, or am I misremembering? 
> 
> I seem to recall that in the past, when merging two chains of the same name, 
> the chains would always be renamed to avoid renumbering issues - the current 
> behavior is better in some situations, for sure, but not in all situations, I 
> think.
> 
> Also coot seems to be sometimes creating “dummy molecules” for want of a 
> better word when I copy molecules - additional molecules that are present in 
> the display manager but do not seem to exist otherwise.
> 
> Oliver.
> 
>> Dear Oliver,
>> 
>> there is a simple work-around: first merge, then renumber. I learned
>> this the hard way, too, and learned it quickly ;-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> 
>> On 03/18/2014 12:30 AM, Oliver Clarke wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Coot seems to be renumbering residues when I merge chains, even when the 
>>> numbering of the chains does not overlap. This seems like a bug? 
>>> 
>>> It only seems to happen when I am merging helices placed with coot (which 
>>> incidentally seem to lack chain IDs by default now). It is a little 
>>> dismaying to find after having carefully renumbered many individual helices 
>>> that all the numbers have changed after merging the helices together in a 
>>> single molecule.
>>> 
>>> I am running Coot 0.8-pre r4966 on Ubuntu 13.10.
>>> 
>>> Oliver.
>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:00 PM, COOT automatic digest system 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are 7 messages totaling 427 lines in this issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Topics of the day:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Per chain ramachandran? (2)
>>>> 2. Delete chain
>>>> 3. unable to launch coot (4)
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Thu, 13 Mar 2014 22:59:49 -0400
>>>> From:    Oliver Clarke <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Per chain ramachandran?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, is there anyway to access/modify the Ramachandran plot display via 
>>>> a python or scheme function? 
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to display a Ramachandran plot calculated just for the 
>>>> currently selected protein chain. do_ramachandran() only seems to take a 
>>>> molecule number, not chain ID. 
>>>> 
>>>> In cases where there many chains in the asymmetric unit, I think this 
>>>> would be useful while building.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Oliver.
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:00:50 +0000
>>>> From:    Oliver Clarke <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Delete chain
>>>> 
>>>> I realised the script I posted previously to delete a chain doesn't take 
>>>> account of insertion codes etc.
>>>> 
>>>> The attached script hopefully fixes that and adds a couple of other 
>>>> widgets that I find useful into a "Custom" menu (when placed in the 
>>>> ~/.coot-preferences  directory).
>>>> 
>>>> Oliver.
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:21:31 +0000
>>>> From:    Andreas Förster <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: Per chain ramachandran?
>>>> 
>>>> I second that.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andreas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 14/03/2014 2:59, Oliver Clarke wrote:
>>>>> Hi all, is there anyway to access/modify the Ramachandran plot display 
>>>>> via a python or scheme function?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to display a Ramachandran plot calculated just for the 
>>>>> currently selected protein chain. do_ramachandran() only seems to take a 
>>>>> molecule number, not chain ID.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In cases where there many chains in the asymmetric unit, I think this 
>>>>> would be useful while building.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Oliver.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>>                 Andreas Förster
>>>>    Crystallization and X-ray Facility Manager
>>>>          Centre for Structural Biology
>>>>             Imperial College London
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:23:42 +0000
>>>> From:    Ignacio Mir Sanchis <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: unable to launch coot
>>>> 
>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
>>>> Scott lab web page 
>>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>> 
>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Nacho
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:47:17 -0400
>>>> From:    Scott Horowitz <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>>> 
>>>> On that note, I actually recently assigned 60 students to do an assignment
>>>> for class using Coot to solve the structure of a protein using maps
>>>> downloaded from EDS. And almost every student who had mavericks on their
>>>> mac had major issues getting it to work. Older versions of OS X were fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> PS The students loved the assignment- I highly recommend trying it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from
>>>>> Scott lab web page (
>>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up
>>>>> )
>>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>>> 
>>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nacho
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Scott Horowitz, Ph.D.
>>>> Research Associate
>>>> Howard Hughes Medical Institute
>>>> 
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>> Department of Molecular, Cellular, and Developmental Biology
>>>> Bardwell lab
>>>> 830 N. University Ave, Room 4007
>>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>>>> phone: 734-647-6683
>>>> fax: 734-615-4226
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:11:28 -0700
>>>> From:    "William G. Scott" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Nacho:
>>>> 
>>>> The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably 
>>>> broke the “stable” coot package.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).
>>>> 
>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry,
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions from 
>>>>> Scott lab web page 
>>>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>>> 
>>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real "$@"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nacho
>>>> 
>>>> William G. Scott
>>>> Professor
>>>> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
>>>> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
>>>> University of California at Santa Cruz
>>>> Santa Cruz, California 95064
>>>> USA
>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/scottlab/
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Date:    Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:40:42 -0700
>>>> From:    "William G. Scott" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: unable to launch coot
>>>> 
>>>> I am updating the “stable” coot in fink to rev. 4965 which should work 
>>>> fine with the latest rkdit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:11 AM, William G. Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Nacho:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The “coot-pre” package should work.  In updating that, I think I probably 
>>>>> broke the “stable” coot package.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, the stand-alone ones all work (just tested).
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Stand-Alone_Coot
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 14, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Ignacio Mir Sanchis 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear cooters,
>>>>>> I installed  fink and packages (in OS X 10.9.2) following directions 
>>>>>> from Scott lab web page 
>>>>>> (http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Quick_Start#Unix_Shell_Environment_Set_Up)
>>>>>> When I try to launch coot this message appears:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> dyld: Symbol not found: __ZNK5RDKit4Dict5toanyISsEEN5boost3anyET_
>>>>>> Referenced from: /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>>> Expected in: /sw/lib/rdkit/libRDGeneral.1.dylib
>>>>>> in /sw/lib/libcoot-lidia-core.0.dylib
>>>>>> /sw/bin/coot: line 9:  9411 Trace/BPT trap: 5       /sw/bin/coot-real 
>>>>>> "$@"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>>>>> Thank you so much in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nacho
>>>>> 
>>>>> William G. Scott
>>>>> Professor
>>>>> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
>>>>> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
>>>>> University of California at Santa Cruz
>>>>> Santa Cruz, California 95064
>>>>> USA
>>>>> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu/scottlab/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> End of COOT Digest - 13 Mar 2014 to 14 Mar 2014 (#2014-40)
>>>> **********************************************************
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr Tim Gruene
>> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
>> Tammannstr. 4
>> D-37077 Goettingen
>> 
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