Hi Ming,


One Uses "DT" in DNA. One doesn't use "T" in RNA, one uses methyl-uridine, specifically 5MU. Poor old Coot gets confused if you try to insert an RNA base into a DNA strand. And doubly so for thymine.

> I have a similar error on MacOS Coot 0.8.9.3 EL

That's an Old Coot. Maybe that's the problem.

Paul.



On 07/02/2021 15:53, Ming Sun wrote:
I have a similar error on MacOS Coot 0.8.9.3 EL, for DNA mutating.

Error: cannot find the standard residue for "Tr"

    (1) using GUI "simple mutate" to mutate it to "T" on a DNA mol
    (2) running python script "mutate_nucleotide_range(0,"C", 1, 2, "CT")"

I was also reading the other old posts about mutating DNA bases. However, it would work for "U" but not "T".

Is there another version that I should try? Any inputs are warmly welcomed

Thanks again!
Ming


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 4:05 AM Clemens Grimm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    A test with Coot 0.8.9.2 EL gives back this Error:

    (mutate-base 0 "T" 3 "" "A")
    (is-nucleotide-chain-p 0 "T")
    This should never happen - badness in get_standard_residue_instance,
    we selected 0 residues looking for residues of type :Tr:
    Oops - can't find standard residue for type T


    Zitat von Clemens Grimm <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    > OK, I did some quick tests and can confirm that Coot reliably gives
    > back "0" for Ts. I guess that this related to a DNA(T) bug (see my
    > previous posts).
    >
    > Is there a Coot version that does the job correctly?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Zitat von Clemens Grimm
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:
    >
    >> Dear All,
    >>
    >> I am doing:
    >> coot> (mutate-residue-range 8 "N" 5 60
    >> "AGCTTAAAAATTGAAAAACTATTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAATCCATAACCCACTTGGGG")
    >>
    >> which gives me back:
    >> (1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    >> 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1)
    >>
    >> As the result does not look as expected I am unsure
    >>
    >> - whether a 0 in the result means error/nothing done/nothing to
    do ?
    >> - whether "AGCTTA ..." has to be written as "dAdGdCdTdTdA ..."?
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >> Clemens
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Zitat von Clemens Grimm
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:
    >>
    >>> Dear All,
    >>>
    >>> mutating RNA bases to Tr gives me the following error:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "This should never happen - badness in
    >>> get_standard_residue_instance, we selected 0 residues looking for
    >>> residues of type :Tr:
    >>> Oops - can't find standard residue for type Tr"
    >>>
    >>> Other residue types work well.
    >>>
    >>> There is a very old thread stating this (or a similar) error had
    >>> been fixed for DNA. Maybe it had not for RNA?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Clemens
    >>>
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    >>
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