Dear Paul

I got around to updating via ccp4.

In 0.9.8.7 EL  I can add the glycans like before, but I do not see a link. The 
glyco module also no longer recognises that there is a glycan present at the 
Asn, so when I add another NAG, they just overlap.


Seems like it can’t find :

......... checking for 
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-NAG-core-NAG-ASN.tab
..that failed - trying  
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-pyranose-core-NAG-ASN.tab
reading 
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-pyranose-core-NAG-ASN.tab
reading /Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/NAG-decorations.tab
INFO:: backup file name 
coot-backup/Documents_Facility_EM_XXX_real_space_refined_006-coot-0.pdb_Wed_Jan_18_09:45:09_2023_modification_0.pdb.gz
WARNING:: Link not found in dictionary

   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 1129 NAG,B 273 ASN returns 
"pyr-ASN"
model file does not exist 
"/Users/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/coot-py2-osx-clang/devtools/install/share/coot/data/cho-models/model-level-1-NAG-pyr-ASN-ASN.tab"

Here is the output

(0) " CG "/1/chainid="B"/273/ASN,  occ: 1 with B-factor: 90.96 element: " C" at 
(246.9,215.5,209.6) : 0.1443
INFO:: recentre: clicked on imol: 0
debug:: g.safe_scheme_command() with command post-set-rotation-centre-hook
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "BMA"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/b/BMA.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "MAN"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/m/MAN.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "GAL"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/g/GAL.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "GLC"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/g/GLC.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "FUC"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/f/FUC.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "XYP"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/x/XYP.cif
INFO:: using standard CCP4 Refmac dictionary to search for "BGC"
There are 2 data in /Applications/ccp4-8.0/lib/data/monomers/b/BGC.cif
......... checking for 
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-NAG-core-NAG-ASN.tab
..that failed - trying  
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-pyranose-core-NAG-ASN.tab
reading 
/Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/link-by-torsion-to-pyranose-core-NAG-ASN.tab
reading /Applications/ccp4-8.0/coot_py2/share/coot/NAG-decorations.tab
INFO:: backup file name 
coot-backup/Documents_Facility_EM_XXX_real_space_refined_006-coot-0.pdb_Wed_Jan_18_09:45:09_2023_modification_0.pdb.gz
WARNING:: Link not found in dictionary
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 3
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  O5
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C2
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C1
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 273 ASN,B 1129 NAG returns ""
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 3
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 1129  O5   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 1129  C2   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 1129  C1   to B 273  ND2
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 1129 NAG,B 273 ASN returns 
"pyr-ASN"
INFO:: link torsion generated from link bond restraint
---- contact_info() constructor added link bond contact 8 7
INFO:: backup file name 
coot-backup/Documents_Facility_EM_XXX_real_space_refined_006-coot-0.pdb_Wed_Jan_18_09:45:09_2023_modification_1.pdb.gz
INFO:: replace_coords: 22 atoms updated.
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 11
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  O5
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C2
#### glyco close: 2.264  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  N2
#### glyco close: 2.206  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 2.164  B 273  CG   to B 1129  C7
#### glyco close: 2.158  B 273  N    to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 2.042  B 273  CB   to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.861  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.769  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  C7
#### glyco close: 1.522  B 273  CG   to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C1
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 273 ASN,B 1129 NAG returns ""
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 11
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 1129  O5   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 1129  C2   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.264  B 1129  N2   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 2.206  B 1129  O7   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.164  B 1129  C7   to B 273  CG
#### glyco close: 2.158  B 1129  O7   to B 273  N
#### glyco close: 2.042  B 1129  O7   to B 273  CB
#### glyco close: 1.861  B 1129  O7   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 1.769  B 1129  C7   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 1.522  B 1129  O7   to B 273  CG
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 1129  C1   to B 273  ND2
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 1129 NAG,B 273 ASN returns 
"pyr-ASN"
model file does not exist 
"/Users/jenkins/workspace/CCP4/coot-py2-osx-clang/devtools/install/share/coot/data/cho-models/model-level-1-NAG-pyr-ASN-ASN.tab"
----------------- in create_mmdbmanager_from_res_vector() alt_conf is ""
----------------- in create_mmdbmanager_from_res_vector() use_alt_conf is 0""
returning an atom selection for all moving atoms 35 atoms
debug:: on creation last_restraints is 0x7fa3e8bd4600
INFO:: from_res_vec() created 98 monomer restraints
created 32 bond       restraints
created 38 angle      restraints
created 6 plane      restraints
created 6 chiral vol restraints
created 0 improper dihedral restraints
created 16 torsion restraints
   Made 2 link bond restraints
   Made 6 link angle restraints
   Made 4 link plane restraints
   Made 2 link trans-peptide restraints
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 1
#### glyco close: 1.927  B 272  CB   to B 1129  C8
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 272 GLN,B 1129 NAG returns ""
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 1
#### glyco close: 1.927  B 1129  C8   to B 272  CB
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 1129 NAG,B 272 GLN returns ""
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 11
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  O5
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C2
#### glyco close: 2.264  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  N2
#### glyco close: 2.206  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 2.164  B 273  CG   to B 1129  C7
#### glyco close: 2.158  B 273  N    to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 2.042  B 273  CB   to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.861  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.769  B 273  OD1  to B 1129  C7
#### glyco close: 1.522  B 273  CG   to B 1129  O7
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 273  ND2  to B 1129  C1
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 273 ASN,B 1129 NAG returns ""
DEBUG:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() number of sorted distances: 11
#### glyco close: 2.386  B 1129  O5   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.355  B 1129  C2   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.264  B 1129  N2   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 2.206  B 1129  O7   to B 273  ND2
#### glyco close: 2.164  B 1129  C7   to B 273  CG
#### glyco close: 2.158  B 1129  O7   to B 273  N
#### glyco close: 2.042  B 1129  O7   to B 273  CB
#### glyco close: 1.861  B 1129  O7   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 1.769  B 1129  C7   to B 273  OD1
#### glyco close: 1.522  B 1129  O7   to B 273  CG
#### glyco close: 1.434  B 1129  C1   to B 273  ND2
   debug:: find_glycosidic_linkage_type() for B 1129 NAG,B 273 ASN returns 
"pyr-ASN"
--
Kelvin Lau
Protein production and structure core facility - PTPSP
EPFL SV PTECH PTPSP
AI 2146 (Bâtiment AI)
Station 19
CH-1015 Lausanne
Switzerland
Email: kelvin....@epfl.ch<mailto:kelvin....@epfl.ch>
Phone: +41 21 69 34494

On 3 Jan 2023, at 10:27, Lau Kelvin 
<00005aaf8435dbef-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:00005aaf8435dbef-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:

Thank you Paul!

Ill give it a spin when the ccp4 distribution updates it as well.
--
Kelvin Lau
Protein production and structure core facility - PTPSP
EPFL SV PTECH PTPSP
AI 2146 (Bâtiment AI)
Station 19
CH-1015 Lausanne
Switzerland
Email: kelvin....@epfl.ch<mailto:kelvin....@epfl.ch>
Phone: +41 21 69 34494

On 3 Jan 2023, at 01:03, Paul Emsley 
<pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>> wrote:


On 27/12/2022 18:59, Kelvin Lau wrote:
Dear Paul

I looked back the forum and similar to Taka's issue in 0.9.8.4 I am also 
experience it with both Coot 0.9.8.6 EL (ccp4 build) and 0.9.8.5 (ccpEM) build. 
MacOS 12.6.1


Hello Kelvin,

I believe that this issue is fixed in 0.9.8.7.

Paul.




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