Hi Eleanor

Thanks for catching that..

I was under the impression that when I am fetching the monomer, MDO, it was 
defined as a peptide, not a non polymer … at least that’s what is listed here: 
https://www.rcsb.org/ligand/MDO

I guess I have to go about as Paul suggested as changing it to “peptide”

Is an alternative using the PDB MDO cif file as the restraint as it is properly 
defined and replacing the original definition?


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On 21 Sep 2023, at 22:56, Eleanor Dodson 
<0000176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:


And in fact it doesnt..

data_comp_list
loop_
_chem_comp.id<http://chem_comp.id>
_chem_comp.three_letter_code
_chem_comp.name<http://chem_comp.name>
_chem_comp.group
_chem_comp.number_atoms_all
_chem_comp.number_atoms_nh
_chem_comp.desc_level
MDO     MDO      
"{2-[(1S)-1-aminoethyl]-4-methylidene-5-oxo-4,5-dihydro-1H-imidazol-1-yl}acetic 
acid"     NON-POLYMER     24     14     .
#

On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 21:53, Eleanor Dodson 
<eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk<mailto:eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk>> wrote:
Check the dictionary has labelled it as peptide
like ALA
data_comp_list
loop_
_chem_comp.id<http://chem_comp.id>
_chem_comp.three_letter_code
_chem_comp.name<http://chem_comp.name>
_chem_comp.group
_chem_comp.number_atoms_all
_chem_comp.number_atoms_nh
_chem_comp.desc_level
ALA ALA ALANINE peptide 13 6 .

On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 18:58, Paul Emsley 
<pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk<mailto:pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>> wrote:
On 21/09/2023 18:05, Kelvin Lau wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I am having trouble with an unnatural ligand/amino acid.
>
> I have a structure very similar to PDB 6Q6H, 7TQR. They all have an MDO 
> residue that replaces three residues in a series G-A-S-G-D to become G-MDO-D. 
> MDO is in the Coot library.
>
> I have been very used to replacing cysteines with CME with Modelling>Replace 
> residue. It works great, removes the OXT and all the other atoms, can use 
> real space refine directly.
>
> For this MDO residue I find that it correctly fetches from the dictionary, 
> however, I cannot refine it. Whenever I click on an atom and drag it just 
> blows up or the atom gets stuck.
>
> I have now opened up 6Q6H and 7TQR and tried to just refine the built in MDO 
> in those PDB, same thing happens.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas of what might be going on? Also in general for 
> modified residues/unnaturals.


If you tell Coot that the group is a non-polymer it will believe you.

Use the Restraints editor to change the group to "peptide" (not tested).

Paul.

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