Lorrie - life is getting more complicated every day!

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 at 23:39, Lucrezia Catapano <
0000ade43f7741e4-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Kelvin,
>
> the 'group' in the monomer library do not necessarily correspond to the
> 'type' in CCD. The reason was that stricter rules for peptides and other
> groups were applied to the library.
>
> For MDO, there are 2 links: MDO-pept and pept-MDO to deal with this in a
> polypeptide.
>
> Of course, you could force it to be peptide but maybe  this should be
> dealt with using specific links (that are in the monomer library).
>
> Lucrezia
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Mailing list for users of COOT Crystallographic Software <
> COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Kelvin Lau <
> 00005aaf8435dbef-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
> *Date: *Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 22:25
> *To: *COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> *Subject: *Re: MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid
>
> You don't often get email from
> 00005aaf8435dbef-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk. Learn why this is important
> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>
>
> Hi Eleanor
>
>
>
> Thanks for catching that..
>
>
>
> I was under the impression that when I am fetching the monomer, MDO, it
> was defined as a peptide, not a non polymer … at least that’s what is
> listed here: https://www.rcsb.org/ligand/MDO
>
>
>
> I guess I have to go about as Paul suggested as changing it to “peptide”
>
>
>
> Is an alternative using the PDB MDO cif file as the restraint as it is
> properly defined and replacing the original definition?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kelvin Lau
> Protein production and structure core facility - PTPSP
> EPFL SV PTECH PTPSP
> AI 2146 (Bâtiment AI)
> Station 19
> *CH-1015 Lausanne*
> *Switzerland*
> Email: kelvin....@epfl.ch <kelvin....@epfl.ch>
> Phone: *+41 21 69 34494*
>
>
>
> On 21 Sep 2023, at 22:56, Eleanor Dodson <
> 0000176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> 
>
> And in fact it doesnt..
>
>
>
> data_comp_list
> loop_
> _chem_comp.id
> _chem_comp.three_letter_code
> _chem_comp.name
> _chem_comp.group
> _chem_comp.number_atoms_all
> _chem_comp.number_atoms_nh
> _chem_comp.desc_level
> MDO     MDO
>  
> "{2-[(1S)-1-aminoethyl]-4-methylidene-5-oxo-4,5-dihydro-1H-imidazol-1-yl}acetic
> acid"     *NON-POLYMER  *   24     14     .
> #
>
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 21:53, Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Check the dictionary has labelled it as peptide
>
> like ALA
>
> data_comp_list
> loop_
> _chem_comp.id
> _chem_comp.three_letter_code
> _chem_comp.name
> _chem_comp.group
> _chem_comp.number_atoms_all
> _chem_comp.number_atoms_nh
> _chem_comp.desc_level
> ALA ALA ALANINE *peptide* 13 6 .
>
>
>
> On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 18:58, Paul Emsley <pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> On 21/09/2023 18:05, Kelvin Lau wrote:
> > Dear all
> >
> > I am having trouble with an unnatural ligand/amino acid.
> >
> > I have a structure very similar to PDB 6Q6H, 7TQR. They all have an MDO
> residue that replaces three residues in a series G-A-S-G-D to become
> G-MDO-D. MDO is in the Coot library.
> >
> > I have been very used to replacing cysteines with CME with
> Modelling>Replace residue. It works great, removes the OXT and all the
> other atoms, can use real space refine directly.
> >
> > For this MDO residue I find that it correctly fetches from the
> dictionary, however, I cannot refine it. Whenever I click on an atom and
> drag it just blows up or the atom gets stuck.
> >
> > I have now opened up 6Q6H and 7TQR and tried to just refine the built in
> MDO in those PDB, same thing happens.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas of what might be going on? Also in general
> for modified residues/unnaturals.
>
>
> If you tell Coot that the group is a non-polymer it will believe you.
>
> Use the Restraints editor to change the group to "peptide" (not tested).
>
> Paul.
>
> ########################################################################
>
> To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=COOT&A=1
>
> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/COOT, a mailing
> list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=COOT&A=1
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=COOT&A=1
>
> ------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=COOT&A=1
>

########################################################################

To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=COOT&A=1

This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/COOT, a mailing list 
hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at 
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/

Reply via email to