On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 at 01:09 Greg Price <g...@zulipchat.com> wrote:

> Hello!  Speaking as another member of the Zulip core team, I can
> answer right here some questions from this thread.
>
> First off, I'll say that I'm very happy to see this discussion, and
> repeat that we would be very happy to provide hosting. :)
>
>
> > PREDEPLOYMENT QUESTIONS AND RESEARCH
> > ====================================
> > 1. SETUP
> > ========
> >   - talk to Tim Abbot <tabbott(a)zulipchat.com&gt; and confirm the
> details about
> >     what Zulip can offer the Python project in terms of a hosted Zulip
> chat
> > service
>
> The hosted service we'd offer out of the box is what we call Zulip
> Cloud Premium, as described here (except we'd provide it for free):
>   https://zulipchat.com/plans/
>
> For more about how Zulip works and why we like it, you can read these:
>   https://zulipchat.com/why-zulip/
>   https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/
>
> To set up a Zulip community, someone can follow any of the "sign up"
> buttons to go to
>   https://zulipchat.com/new/
> and create a Zulip organization at a URL like python.zulipchat.com.
> Then let us know and we'll mark that organization to get Zulip Cloud
> Premium for free permanently.  (We can also give it a custom domain
> like chat.python.org later.)
>

To prevent anyone from squatting on the name I just tried to register for
python.zulipchat.com but was told that subdomain is not available (although
python.zulipchat.com says there's no organization). :(

-Brett


>
>
> >   - decide on the type of logins/auth that will be allowed for this
> service
> >        -> GitHub oauth?
> >        -> Google oauth?
> >        -> chat service specific account?
> >        -> other?
>
> Out of the box, we support all three of the ideas above on
> zulipchat.com: GitHub OAuth, Google OAuth, and users can sign up with
> an email and password.
>
>
> >   - should there be a DNS name for this for easy eaccess:
> chat.python.org
> > ?
>
> We're happy to do this while hosting on the zulipchat.com cloud
> service; we've done it for others before.  No rush; we can move it to
> such a name later.
>
>
>
> > 2. ADMIN
> > ========
> >   -> identify points of contact for Zulip, i.e. who gets contacted if
> > something goes wrong?
>
> The usual point of contact is supp...@zulipchat.com; several of us
> monitor that and we're quite responsive there.  For most things that's
> best.
>
> Folks can also contact me personally or, as mentioned upthread, Tim
> Abbott.  We're in the Zulip organization for Zulip's own development
> community, at https://chat.zulip.org/ (which is of course open for
> anyone to join); once an open Zulip org for the Python project is
> set up, I'll certainly be present there too.
>
>
>
> > DEPLOYMENT PLAN
> > ===============
> >
> > 0.  EVALUATION
> > =============
> >     1.  Have key stakeholders test drive https://chat.zulip.org , and
> make
> > sure they are OK with it, before proceeding to
> >          rollout.
> >
> > 1. PHASE 1 - initial rollout
> > ============================
> >       1.   Decide on the auth/login policy for the chat system
> >       2.   Get Zulip to set up the system and make it available
>
> This part is easy :) -- whoever wants to do this can just go to
> https://zulipchat.com/new and create a new org.  It's self-serve.
>
>
> >       3.   Have a few people in the core-workflow team test drive the
> > system for 1 week
>
> I'd suggest one addition to this: have at least one experienced Zulip
> user (probably me and/or Tim) participate in this step as well.  Like
> many forms of online communication, there's a lot of habits and norms
> of usage for making everything smooth that you pick up naturally when
> you join an established community, but aren't as obvious when everyone
> is new to the system at the same time.
>
> Happy to answer other questions!
>
> Greg
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