On 2025-04-13 17:52, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On 2025-04-13, at 16:37, Rohan Mahy <[email protected]> wrote:

enveloped signature

That term has a meaning in XML, but “enveloped” appears to mean something 
different in CMS.
So I’ll talk about “embedded” signatures.

Fine.


The problem with adding a map entry with a fixed map key is that you can’t have 
multiple embedded signatures in your data (or the value of the data needs to be 
an array).

Using an array for his purpose is obvious.


More generally speaking, please do think about and fully specify the actual 
transform you think you are using when erasing the signature before verifying 
it; don’t take that for granted.

The transformations using CBOR Core are fortunately quite simple.


There is a semantic difference between multiple independent signatures and a 
countersignature, as detailed in RFC 9338 [1].  The countersignature must not 
erase the signature to be countersigned!

I'm aware of that.  Here enveloped/embedded signatures really shine; an easy 
solution is just embedding the original document in a new one:

CSF 👍:

{
  1: {
    1: "Hello signed world!",
    2: [2.0, true],
    simple(59): {
      1: -50,
      6: 
h'0e537463c12db5feb1641b04ee48db476dda95e8b999121c508527beeee8f69ce453143418e6d6c6d00f1f7bb437f974026f68d8704f5fdc6ed6bc18daa4f80e'
    }
  },
  simple(59): {
    1: -50,
    6: 
h'739155e7c8bf391f04db17e52e365ee323b5854966740fbfa0af9692c07bbc80533af3e7d90f04d5096deb7a78c4225227cbe58d81b52f2bc1c7e03d841e600f'
  }
}



COSE 😱:

97([h'a10105', {
  11: [h'a10127', {
    4: h'3131'
  }, 
h'602566f4a311dc860740d2df54d4864555e85bc036ea5a6cf7905b96e499c5f66b01c4997f6a20c37c37543adea1d705347d38a5b13594b29583dd741f455101']
}, h'546869732069732074686520636f6e74656e742e', 
h'2bdcc89f058216b8a208ddc6d8b54aa91f48bd63484986565105c9ad5a6682f6', [[h'', {
  1: -6,
  4: h'6f75722d736563726574'
}, h'']]])

Anders


Grüße, Carsten

[1]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9338#section-1-2


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