Also, a site search on CoTyroneIreland.com shows 69 references to McSorley.
Jim Jim McKane South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Boyd Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Apols for stating what might be ther obvious but the civil registration of > births did not begin in Ireland til 1864 so you will never find the births > of your gggps. And church records of baptisms will depend very much on the > church but even there, you really only have a 50/50 chance of finding > baptisms from the 1840s and 1850s. And a prerequisite is knowing which > church to check. You do not mention religious affiliation but with names > like McSorley and McFadden, I am guessing in Catholic, which makes it a bit > easier than Presbyterian because they will have attended the parish > church. So, residence and parish are indeed essential. > > No marriage for Thomas McSorley and Mary Anne McFadden in County Tyrone > within 5 years of 1876 in any of RootsIreland, IrishGenealogy or GRONI, > which is not a good start! > > However, if you have the deaths of Thomas' parents, then you must surely > know where they lived, which will give you the correct church to search but > you do not give these records. I am assuming this is them: > > Civil Death Record > Name: William McSorley Date of Death: 18-May-1874 > Age: 57 Parish / District: KILLETER > Address: Meencargah County: TYRONE > Status: Married > Occupation: STONE CUTTER Sex: Male > Graveyard Informant > Graveyard: Relationship: Unknown > Parish: Name: Nancy McSorley > County: Address: Meencargah > > So, he died in Meencargah, not Killeter, that is just the local > registration district. And Castlederg would be the area registration > district. Meencargah is in the Parish of West Longfield, just south of > Castlederg. > > No sign of a death cert for Nancy, however, in Co Tyrone between 1874, > when she was PAD for William, and 1914, when she would probably have been > in her 90s, at any of the BMD websites. It would help to have that. > > If Thomas McSorley was born to William McSorley in 1854, then the > Griffiths Valuation of circa 1858 should really have a William McSorley in > Meencargah, or at least in West Longfield, but it only has these McSorleys: > > Mcsorley Hugh Drumowen Longfield West > Tyrone > Mcsorley James Drumowen Longfield West > Tyrone > Mcsorley John Clunahill Glebe Longfield West > Tyrone > Mcsorley John Drumowen Longfield West > Tyrone > Mcsorley Samuel Bomackatall Upper Longfield West > Tyrone > > Ardstraw does not have a William either: > > Mc Sorley Andrew Drumnabey > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley Edw. Newtownstewart > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley Edward Newtownstewart > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley James Ballyrenan > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley James Meaghy > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley Patrick Tullymuck > Ardstraw Tyrone > Mc Sorley Rose Envagh > Ardstraw Tyrone > > There ARE William McSorleys in the GV in the parishes of Badoney, Cappagh, > Kilskerry and Termonaguirk. > > On the assumption that I DO have the correct death above, and that your > McSorleys came from West Longfield, then these are the available church > records: > > R.C. Langfield (Drumquin) (Derry diocese) > Baptisms and marriages, 1846-80; deaths, 1853-6. MIC1D/60 > > And you can check these for yourself here: > > http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0364 > > I did have a look for the McFaddens in County Donegal but with even less > success in finding much on Denis and Bell McFadden anywhere in those parts > of Donegal close to Tyrone. Btw, there is no such place as Donegal City. > It is a town but I suspect you mean the registration district surrounding > that town. > > I would be interested in seeing the records you found to see if that could > help me a little more but this is all I can do for the moment. > > Regards, > > Boyd > > > https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ > > On 25 August 2017 at 10:48, Andrew McSorley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Sirs, >> >> >> >> I have been attempting to trace my family tree but have been unable to >> find any records relating to two of the most important people in County >> Tyrone. >> >> >> >> My great-great-grandparents were a Thomas McSorley, born in Tyrone circa >> 1854 and Mary Anne, nee McFadden, who was around four years older. >> >> >> >> They first appear in the 1881 Census in Scotland and they live out their >> lives there. >> >> >> >> My great-grandfather William McSorley was born in Glasgow in 1877 and on >> the birth certificate, it gives the parents date and place of marriage. The >> date is February 1876 and the County is Tyrone, but the Parish is causing >> some confusion. >> >> >> >> It looks like “Astroe” but no such Parish exists in Tyrone (I have looked >> at the birth certificates for all of their children and it says the same >> thing). >> >> >> >> I’ve done some research and it may actually be “Ardstraw” and this would >> tie in as Thomas’ parents were William and Nancy (nee Cowley) and I have >> found death certificates for both of them, one in Killeter and one in >> Castlederg so it looks very much like they lived their lives in the west of >> Tyrone, next to the border with Donegal. >> >> >> >> Mary Ann, mentioned above, was definitely from Donegal as I have found >> death notices for her parents Denis and Isabella (or Bell, nee Gallagher) >> in Donegal City. >> >> >> >> I have searched every site I can think of for any evidence relating to >> Thomas and Mary Ann’s birth details and marriage details but can find >> nothing. >> >> >> >> If anyone can offer any assistance I would be very grateful. I am >> intending to travel to Tyrone in the next few weeks and would be happy to >> buy someone a pint or two! >> >> >> >> All the best, >> >> >> >> Andy McSorley >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelis >> t_cotyroneireland.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > CoTyroneList mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/ > cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > >
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