Dear Ron,
You have expressed my thoughts perfectly!  Thank you.
iola Whiteside.

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> On Oct 26, 2018, at 5:52 AM, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList 
> <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Len and all
> 
> Thank you Len for sharing this with all of us. I read this and many other 
> pieces of history. I  notice the trend through out of the lack of mention of 
> positive attributes of the common people. Empathy for another human being is 
> completely devoid in these reports. The time period scribes never seems to 
> mention how hard working these people are, how close knit the families be, 
> the way communities work together or the weight of unfair and unjust economic 
> burdens they struggle under and still survive and more they insist on  
> thriving in the face of great adversity. I think these Ordinances  are 
> important pieces of history not as much about what they report or say on the 
> surface to  us  but because they tell us a lot about the writer and the class 
> structure he dwells in. It seems important to him to paint a portrait of the 
> Irish working class people at a level of sub human strata (you may see pigs 
> and fowls eating in the kitchen and everything is dirty ). The considerable 
> hardships people are forced to live in are justified because of their moral 
> depravity, "49th: It is believed that there is at least an improvement in the 
> morals and cleanliness of children attending Sunday Schools". This article to 
> me paints a picture of a people who are brave in the face of over whelming 
> poverty, and unjust taxation without representation overseen by  absentee 
> land lords. It speaks to me of a devotion to preserve the family and 
> traditions at all costs. As people who are forced to struggle, their hope 
> lies in their children and their children's, children, in other words "us". 
> They would not allow themselves to quit, be broken, or trodden under, despite 
> the written word, legal system and their betters opinion. They refused to 
> think of themselves as less then any mans equal. They put all their hopes in 
> the generations to come, they sacrificed everything to bring "us" into a 
> safer , a better place... may we not let them down, may we never forget who 
> they were and what they sacrificed for ,"us", for ,"me". What they did was 
> not easy and it was not pretty but they did it, a better world for us, those 
> like us, those like them and those still to come. May we be able to say the 
> same.... Thank you Len for bringing these pieces of history to us.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ron McCoy
> 
> 
>> On 2018-10-25 10:20 PM, Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList wrote:
>> Thanks Len - Even knowing the history of those hard times, this piece paints 
>> a pretty grim picture of the environments our people endured as they 
>> struggled to survive.  I imagine depression was common in the population - 
>> reminds me to be more grateful for my lucky circumstances.  
>> From: "Len Swindley via CoTyroneList" <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>
>> To: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com
>> Cc: "Len Swindley" <len_swind...@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 7:02:19 PM
>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Observations on the Inhabitants of Clogher 
>> Parish, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland 1833-5
>> 
>> Hello Listers;
>>  
>> There has been recent interest expressed in the lives of our Tyrone forbears 
>> (thanks to Elwyn) and here is an extract from the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of 
>> the 1820s-30s that offers some observations on living conditions in Clogher 
>> parish. Having read through many of the memoirs covering the parishes of Co. 
>> Tyrone, this report could be applied similarly to all parishes.
>>  
>> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>>  
>>  
>> EXTRACTED FROM ORDNANCE MEMOIRS OF IRELAND: PARISHES OF COUNTY TYRONE VOL. 1 
>> (INSTITUTE OF IRISH STUDIES, QUEEN’S UNIVERSITY OF BELFAST) (1990)
>> STATISTICAL MEMOIR BY LIEUTENANT R. STOTHERD
>> ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS:
>> THE HABITS OF THE PEOPLE
>> 42nd: There is very little order, cleanliness, or neatness in general to be 
>> found either in the houses or of the more wealthy farmers or in the cottages 
>> of the poor. The turf stack often approaches within a few yards of the door 
>> and thus intersects the view and stops the currency of the air. The yard in 
>> front of the house is full of the odour of the cow house and stable, for 
>> they are often built in the very front and sometime adjoining the 
>> dwellinghouse. The lanes and approaches to the house are narrow, rough and 
>> filthy in the extreme. Within no order is visible; you may see pigs and 
>> fowls eating in the kitchen and everything is dirty and confused, the 
>> furniture a few pots and noggins, a stool or a broken chair. The potatoes at 
>> meals are thrown out in a basket and so laid on the table or on a stool, and 
>> the whole family gather round, master, mistress, children and servants in a 
>> mass, and eat out of the basket without knife, fork or any appendage at 
>> meals. A man who can give his daughter in marriage 50 or 100 pounds will 
>> live in this manner. But this is not universally the case: sometimes 
>> everything is seen comfortable, neat and clean, both within and without the 
>> farmhouse, the furniture good and decent, the kitchen neatly tiled, the 
>> outside of the house well whitewashed and thatched, the yard and lanes about 
>> the house in good repair and clean. It is, however, to be regretted that 
>> very few instances occur where this order and decency is observed.
>>  
>> FOOD
>> 44th: Potatoes and milk is the general food of the farmers of this barony, 
>> for breakfast, dinner and supper during 9 months of the year. This is 
>> sometimes varied by a bit of bacon for dinner, sometimes butter and oaten 
>> bread or eggs are added to the potatoes for dinner. In 3 of the summer 
>> months when potatoes begin to fail, stirabout or flummery is substituted for 
>> potatoes, for breakfast or supper.
>> 45th: The same report will serve for the manufacturing class and 
>> tradespeople.
>> 46th: Potatoes and milk, or when milk grows scarce potatoes or herrings, or 
>> potatoes and salt is almost the only food of the poor inhabitants during the 
>> entire year. Occasionally a little stirabout is added for supper or 
>> breakfast in the summer months.
>>  
>> EDUCATION
>> 47th: There is certainly a general desire of instruction in all classes of 
>> the people, both Protestants and Roman Catholics. The poor are anxious to 
>> teach their children reading, writing and arithmetic, and although the 
>> facilities for the education of the Roman Catholics is not so great as for 
>> the Protestants, being hindered by their priests from attending Sunday and 
>> other schools, yet there is certainly a desire in the minds even of the 
>> Roman Catholics for the education of their children.
>> 48th: The children of the poor pay for their education according to the 
>> following rates: for spelling and reading, for writing for arithmetic, for 
>> book-keeping [blank]
>> 49th: It is believed that there is at least an improvement in the morals and 
>> cleanliness of children attending Sunday Schools. They are not permitted to 
>> attend unless they are clean and they are expelled if any gross immorality 
>> be committed. It is also hoped that there is in the inhabitants in general, 
>> a greater respect for the laws, fewer quarrels and less fighting than 
>> formerly
>>  
>>  
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