Absolutely wonderful Elwyn. A brilliant expose of past times Regards Len Swindley
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019 7:14 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: Elwyn Soutter Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Fwd: Meehan family information You won’t get a birth certificate for Michael Meehan because his birth was long before the start of statutory birth certificates in Ireland (1864). Prior to 1864 we generally rely on church records but in this case if he was born near Carrickmore (Termonmaguirk parish) in 1831, their baptisms don’t start till 1834, so there won’t be a baptism record to find. So you probably won’t find any documentary record of his birth or baptism. Family in 1901 census: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Athenree/Tremoge/1747785/ I see births for sons John on 26.5.1873, James on 8.6.1878 and daughter Alice on 17.9.1867 (where mother’s maiden name is recorded as Morrow). Mary Meenan’s death was registered in Omagh 8.7.1900 aged 50. You can view the above certificates free on the irishgenealogy site https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie save for John’s in 1873 which appears in the indexes but isn’t on the website. In that case you best bet is probably to view it on the GRONI website. They do appear to hold a copy there. I searched for the 3rd son’s birth but did not find it. Could it have been pre 1864 Ie before statutory registration)? In which case you would need to rely on church records. The Carrickmore parish records for 1834 to 1857 are on-line on the nli site but the records for 1858 onwards are not. So if the marriage and the birth of the first son fell in the period 1858 to 1863, then the church has the only copy. Note that in both the 1901 census and the various statutory records I have referred to, the surname is recorded as Meenan not Meehan. Michael Meenan’s farm is listed in Griffiths Valuation for 1860. It was plot 18a in Griffiths and was a 29 acre farm. That property today is near the junction of the Termon and Coolbrack roads, outside Pomeroy. Griffith's Valuation Griffith's Valuation I notice Morris households in and around Tremoge so it's possible Michael married the girl next door. I am sorry that the person responsible for the church records was not as helpful as they might have been. Churches here do get a lot of genealogical requests and, in my personal experience, there have been several unfortunate incidents involving people defacing entries and ripping pages out of registers for whatever reason. Since these are the original records some custodians are understandably cautious about others handling them. It’s probably also worth trying to manage your expectations here. I think some people expect churches to hold lots of detailed records on their congregations. They usually don’t. The birth and marriage records are often all they have (for the 1800s anyway). Few RC churches kept burial records, and there was rarely a written record for graveyards of where people were buried. (The gravediggers and most of the population were largely illiterate. Written records were no use to them). The information on where families were buried was kept in people’s heads, but obviously was lost when they died or moved away. Elwyn From: Carrie Mahan via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Carrie Mahan <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2019, 1:42 Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Fwd: Meehan family information ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Carrie Mahan <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 8:03 AM Subject: Meehan family information To: <[email protected]> Seeking additional information on Michael Meehan and family. Attended church at carrickmore, born 1831, died 17 jan 1903. Visited church record keeper there, who was less than forthcoming about giving out other records. Hope you will have other information. These are the Meehans of tremoge. Michael was married to Margaret Morris and had 4 sons and a daughter. Michael died in 1903. Looking for original marriage records, birth certificates, death certificates, and more information about Margaret morris. I only have information from Ancestry. Anything else would be appreciated. Thanks. Carrie Mahan _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: [email protected] Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com
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