Valerie,


You comment about finding Henry Allen’s baptism in Raphoe parish. Henry
senior was a weaver. They did tend to move around to follow the available
work. I do note that the baptism was Church of Ireland, rather than
Presbyterian, which is mildly unusual, but not impossible. Folk did “change
lanes” from time to time. Or it might be another family with the same
forenames.  But moving around was not unusual and it often makes weavers
and labourers generally harder to trace.



You mention tracing Catherine Flood’s family. Her townland is given as
Carnone (Carnowen) and her father Patrick was a farmer. I searched
Griffiths Valuation (1857) for Carnowen and there are no Flood households
listed. Suggests the family had died out or left the area by 1857. There
was only one Flood in the whole parish in 1857. She was Mary Flood in the
townland of Trusk. She lived in a labourer’s cottage on Francis Devaney’s
farm. Trusk is some distance from Carnowen. Perhaps 15 miles, so probably
no connection.



The tithe applotment records for Donaghmore parish don’t appear to have
survived so I can’t check to see if there was a Patrick Flood in Carnowen
in the 1820s.  I searched the local marriage records 1845 – 1865 for other
Floods from Carnowen but without success. So not much sign of your Flood
family in Irish records.



As far as attending Carnone Presbyterian church on 11th September, just
turn up.  No invitation is required. The Minister should be at the door
when you leave and you can have a word with him/her then if you wish.



https://www.fahanchurch.org/carnonepresbyterian.htm







Elwyn

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 at 19:23, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Len,
> I think you may have found something here.
>
> Henry Allen* is* the name of my 2nd great grandfather. He would most
> likely have immigrated in 1851 (as he and Catherine Flood only married on
> 14 Nov. 1850- per the parish records).
> From the Allen Nebraska Centennial History book that I have, it says that
> the family went to Philadelphia.
> So the entry for the "Superior" to Philadelphia might have been him.
> Was it common not to mention wife/children if they were part of the
> passengers?
> Castlefin is very close to Carnone/Carnowen and it's possible, after they
> married in November, they may have stayed there before immigrating?
>
> I have also copied Elwyn Soutter with this email, as you both are far more
> knowledgeable about the records that are available.  So, if you have any
> suggestions for where I might look next, to try and nail down information-
> I would be very grateful.
>
> (I have found no other information about the mother of Henry's children -
> Barbara Stevenson, other than their 1836 marriage notice, and *you *had
> found the baptism records of three of the children, William, Susan, Sarah.
>
> *The following entries were extracted from the Carnone Church records:*
>
>     *  Carnone Presbyterian Church, Donaghmore Parish, Register of
> Baptisms*
>
> *      Jan 8 1837: William son of Henry Allen & Barbara*
>
> *      Feb 14 1844: Susan dau of Henry Allen & Barbara*
>
> *     Sep 4 1846: Sarah dau of Henry Allen & Barbara*
>
> *     No record of a baptism of Henry James*
> Henry'Jr.s baptism record is in Raphoe Parish for some reason (attached)
>
> Maybe I should try looking  for records about Catherine Flood Allen's
> father? Maybe as a farmer there might be a Townsland record with his
> name/location?  Might that be useful?
>
> I did try writing to the current minister at the Carnone Presybterian
> Church to say I was wanting to attend  the Sunday Service on 11 Sept. but
> it may have gone into his spam folder, as I've had no reply.
>
> Once again, I thank you both for your generous sharing of your expertise
> and knowledge.
> Valerie
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 4:11 AM Len Swindley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Valerie,
>>
>> Apologies for commencing a new thread but I have not been receiving posts
>> via my Hotmail account and unable to respond to your post.
>>
>> I have referred to “Irish Passenger Lists 1847-1871” edited by Brian
>> Mitchell which contains the names and addresses of in excess of 27,000
>> emigrants to the U.S. and Canada carried by the two Derry shipping
>> companies J & J Cooke Line and McCorkell Line to Philadelphia, Quebec, St
>> John & New Orleans.
>>
>> There are three records for Allens from Castlefin (Donaghmore parish) and
>> Convoy which may be connected to your family:
>>
>> “Alleghaney” to Philadelphia 1847
>>
>> UNITY ALLEN of Castlefin
>>
>> “Lumley” to Philadelphia 1850
>>
>> ANDREW ALLEN of Convoy
>>
>> “Superior” to Philadelphia 1851
>>
>> HENRY ALLEN of Castlefin
>>
>> Sadly, there appears to be no record of your forebears and it is possible
>> they made their way to Glasgow (Greenock) and sailed from there.
>>
>> There was no systematic record of emigrants from Ireland until the 1890s.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>>
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