Contradicting myself …. This website shows a few groups around haystacks (different style, some in Scotland) but a few of the ladies have hats similar to those in your photo. (near the top, then scroll down almost to the end).
https://thatchinginfo.com/thatching-ricks-stacks-in-britain/ I’ll drop out now, and leave it to other sleuths. James From: James Huey via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2024 12:21 AM To: Dave Vanable <[email protected]>; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]> Cc: James Huey <[email protected]> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Old photo - seeking input - possibly Scotland? Another line to follow might be the style of the haystack. Was that type of stacking used in Scotland? Someone with Scottish farming heritage may know. The only similar haystack photos I could find doing a bit of googling were in Eastern Europe, but Scotland may well have had similar. I am certainly not a vintage fashion expert but the type of hats suggests (to me) something more Eastern European than Scottish. But I could be totally wrong! I’m just guessing. James From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, 26 August 2024 10:48 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Dave Vanable <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Old photo - seeking input - possibly Scotland? Hello listers! Attached is a photo that was "hiding" in a bin with some old family photos that I was scanning today... reportedly Carrie Butterfield Wathey (my dad's grandmother, on his mom's side) is in this picture, and the woman in the upper right certainly looks like other pictures that I have of her from the time. Carrie was my born in Providence RI in 1873 to John Campbell Wathey (Irish) and Caroline Hanley from Scotland. In 1895 (at age 21) Carrie went on a two-month trip to Scotland via "The City of Rome" (Inman line) to spend time with aunts, uncles, and cousins to convalesce from malaria -- during which time she wrote a delightful diary (14 pages typewritten, transcribed by my grandma - Carrie's daughter - and typed up at some point by my dad's sister). While mostly it seems there were visits and tea parties, Carrie mentions going from Glasgow (where her cousins whom she was visiting lived) to Eaglesham and to Cathcart (to visit family and see where Mary Queen of Scots ruled), and then Milngavie to have a picnic and see the waterworks... this Milngavie jaunt even mentions 10 young ladies together having fun and meeting a couple of young men who took our photo... Note that the attached picture has 10 women, one man, plus a photographer. The image looks unusual to me because of the hats worn by the women, very simple in style and a bit "vertically inclined" in the center. (Can you tell I know nothing about hats LOL). So while there is a TON of conjecture and leaping from one item to the next, things do somewhat hang together as this MIGHT be the photo from her trip in 1895 to Scotland! Long story short, I am wondering if anyone knows if the people's attire seems "typically Scottish" in any and if you have a sense of the timeframe of the picture? Ideas welcome for how to track down the Scottish side of the family, who were apparently called Wathieu in Scotland. I've done no research work in Scotland, with most of my focus on County Tyrone (Venables near Clogher) and County Leitrim (Knotts). Thanks for any ideas or input, Dave PS: Should anyone be interested, I'm happy to send the diary to you offline.
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