Hi Dave, Not just conjecture. The facts taken together build up a case for this being the photo taken of Carrie's visit to Milngavie: 1. It appears to be Carrie in the photo and she is the right age for it to have been taken in 1895 2. The diary description of the group fits the people in the photo. Three of the women look alike enough to be closely related to each other (bottom left, bottom right and top second from left). The woman next to Carrie in the cape and the one second left bottom row also look like each other. 3. The landscape is consistent with the area around the reservoir in a google search. 4. The style of haystack is consistent with Scottish stacks of the era in the site found by James https://thatchinginfo.com/thatching-ricks-stacks-in-britain/
5. The clothing is spot on for the 1890s - see https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1890-1899/ Boater hats and ties for women were fashionable attire for a day in the country. What time of year was Carrie's visit? They look to be warmly dressed but not for midwinter and the ground is dry enough to sit on. Is hay made midsummer in Scotland - maybe July/August? Scotlands People has wild card/phonetic matching/fuzzy logic searching so you will be able to play around with the surname search. If the diary gives the names of people in the families she visited you can sort census search results by the reference number and registration district. You search for one known person in a household, note the reference/RD number. Then search the surname only and sort by the reference number. This will bring up all the people of that name in the house. This works best if you have 2 known people to search against. You may have guessed I love deciphering old photos. Thanks for posting. Regards, Heather On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 12:47 PM Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello listers! > > Attached is a photo that was "hiding" in a bin with some old family photos > that I was scanning today... reportedly Carrie Butterfield Wathey (my dad's > grandmother, on his mom's side) is in this picture, and the woman in the > upper right certainly looks like other pictures that I have of her from the > time. Carrie was my born in Providence RI in 1873 to John Campbell Wathey > (Irish) and Caroline Hanley from Scotland. > > In 1895 (at age 21) Carrie went on a two-month trip to Scotland via "The > City of Rome" (Inman line) to spend time with aunts, uncles, and cousins to > convalesce from malaria -- during which time she wrote a delightful diary > (14 pages typewritten, transcribed by my grandma - Carrie's daughter - and > typed up at some point by my dad's sister). > > While mostly it seems there were visits and tea parties, Carrie mentions > going from Glasgow (where her cousins whom she was visiting lived) to > Eaglesham and to Cathcart (to visit family and see where Mary Queen of > Scots ruled), and then Milngavie to have a picnic and see the waterworks... > this Milngavie jaunt even mentions 10 young ladies together having fun and > meeting a couple of young men who took our photo... Note that the > attached picture has 10 women, one man, plus a photographer. The image > looks unusual to me because of the hats worn by the women, very simple in > style and a bit "vertically inclined" in the center. (Can you tell I know > nothing about hats LOL). > > So while there is a TON of conjecture and leaping from one item to the > next, things do somewhat hang together as this MIGHT be the photo from her > trip in 1895 to Scotland! > > Long story short, I am wondering if anyone knows if the people's attire > seems "typically Scottish" in any and if you have a sense of the timeframe > of the picture? Ideas welcome for how to track down the Scottish side of > the family, who were apparently called Wathieu in Scotland. I've done no > research work in Scotland, with most of my focus on County Tyrone (Venables > near Clogher) and County Leitrim (Knotts). > > Thanks for any ideas or input, > Dave > PS: Should anyone be interested, I'm happy to send the diary to you > offline. > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - [email protected] > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > [email protected] > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - [email protected] > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > [email protected] > ================================= >
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