Dave,
Can’t help with the clothing at all. My knowledge is zero, though I can’t help thinking that by 1895 people across the whole of the UK and Ireland probably wore pretty similar styles. If you go to the Scotlandspeople site (pay to view) you can search the Scottish censuses (as well as a variety of other Scottish records). Searching the 1901 census, I don’t see any Wathieu families at all. I see just 3 Wathew families in the Glasgow area. 1 in St Rollox registration area (6 people), a second in Partick (2 people) and a third in Dennistoun (5 people). The indexes will give you their names and ages. If you want to see the full census return you need to pay. It’s about £1.60 (sterling) per page. https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records If any of the names look like your family, you can use the same site to search earlier censuses, back to 1841 as well as for birth, death & marriage certificates for them. You can also search the 1911 & 1921 censuses. Birth, death & marriage registration started in Scotland in 1855. Prior to that you need to use church baptism records, same as Ireland. Mainstream denominations baptism & marriage records ie Presbyterian and Catholic are on the same website. Save for the years 1856 -1860, Scottish birth certificates record where and when the parents married. Their marriage certificates also record both parents details (as opposed to Irish & English certificates which only have the fathers names and occupations) and also whether they were alive or dead on that date. Scottish research is a lot easier than Irish! Cathcart today is very much part of Glasgow. It’s a southern suburb. Eaglesham (pronounced Eagle-sham) is a little further on the southern edge of the city. Perhaps 10 miles from the city centre. Milngavie (pronounced Mill-guy) is on the northern edge of the city perhaps 7 miles from the city centre. Easily accessible by train (then and now). So none of the 3 places Carrie visited were very far out of town. Here’s a link to the Milngavie reservoir they visited. Still very much in existence today. (I remember it as a child). We always knew it as Mugdock reservoir. Milngavie Reservoir - Scottish Water | | | | Milngavie Reservoir - Scottish Water | | | Elwyn On Monday 26 August 2024 at 01:47:56 BST, Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote: Hello listers! Attached is a photo that was "hiding" in a bin with some old family photos that I was scanning today... reportedly Carrie Butterfield Wathey (my dad's grandmother, on his mom's side) is in this picture, and the woman in the upper right certainly looks like other pictures that I have of her from the time. Carrie was my born in Providence RI in 1873 to John Campbell Wathey (Irish) and Caroline Hanley from Scotland. In 1895 (at age 21) Carrie went on a two-month trip to Scotland via "The City of Rome" (Inman line) to spend time with aunts, uncles, and cousins to convalesce from malaria -- during which time she wrote a delightful diary (14 pages typewritten, transcribed by my grandma - Carrie's daughter - and typed up at some point by my dad's sister). While mostly it seems there were visits and tea parties, Carrie mentions going from Glasgow (where her cousins whom she was visiting lived) to Eaglesham and to Cathcart (to visit family and see where Mary Queen of Scots ruled), and then Milngavie to have a picnic and see the waterworks... this Milngavie jaunt even mentions 10 young ladies together having fun and meeting a couple of young men who took our photo... Note that the attached picture has 10 women, one man, plus a photographer. The image looks unusual to me because of the hats worn by the women, very simple in style and a bit "vertically inclined" in the center. (Can you tell I know nothing about hats LOL). So while there is a TON of conjecture and leaping from one item to the next, things do somewhat hang together as this MIGHT be the photo from her trip in 1895 to Scotland! Long story short, I am wondering if anyone knows if the people's attire seems "typically Scottish" in any and if you have a sense of the timeframe of the picture? Ideas welcome for how to track down the Scottish side of the family, who were apparently called Wathieu in Scotland. I've done no research work in Scotland, with most of my focus on County Tyrone (Venables near Clogher) and County Leitrim (Knotts). Thanks for any ideas or input, Dave PS: Should anyone be interested, I'm happy to send the diary to you offline. ================================= Send a Message to the List - [email protected] List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - [email protected] To receive the Digest version, send an email to - [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to - [email protected] =================================
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