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I also heard that after the C/D was introduced ERCO converted Ercoupes with lower serial# , they had not sold so far to be C/D s. So was N3330H, serial number 3995 (re)born as a C/D. The idea was simple. The C/D model gave the OPTION to convert it easily to a 415-D when the owner had the desire to do so. ERCO found the Model C safer to fly and did not wanted to get involved into any legal issues I guess. After all, they already advised the sales personal not to over demonstrate the Coupes. Since the new type certificate had been issued already , they could market the Coupe with 1400 ## but It was hard to land in this configuration and maybe even hard to take off on a short field. So selling C/D's was putting the liability onto the user by keeping the selling point of the 14000 gross. Extending this C/D model to all planes left on the factory seems to be a no brainer. They just changes the stainless steel covering of the header tank and voila another, hopefully better selling C/D was born. This happened all beginning 1947 to my knowledge.. Hartmut Richard Wilkens wrote: > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > Jack, > > I believe that the factory 415D had 76 serial numbers set aside for it > (4425-4500). I have only been able to find one factory D (N3810H cn. > 4435). I find this strange because I have located some information on 75% > of all serial numbers available. I know people are going to scream, but > don't put your faith in any published numbers as to the number of Coupes > built, let alone the number of any one type. From the serial numbers I > have and a few production dates, I believe the 415C gave way to a few 415Ds > (maybe only one or two) which where followed by the 415CD. The 415CD is > almost a 415D without the D's evaluator restrictions and its gross weight > and some CDs may have been 415Ds that were converted at the factory. > > To get me in more trouble, ERCO must have thought the 415D was not worth > producing or they would not have gone to the CD which is closer to a 415C > than it is to a 415D. By dropping the D, they lost the added gross weight > limits which would have been a great selling point for its product > considering the company was in trouble. People must want the higher gross > weight because they are still converting Cs and CDs to Ds. > > Richard. > N99904 > > PS. Let the flames roll in! We haven't had a good one this list in months. > > At 12:04 PM 12/17/2002 -0700, Jack Gocha wrote: > >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > >advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > >Hi Gang > >Every so often people in our group refer to 415 CD Ercoupes. Erco did at > >the beginning of the third quarter of 1947, when they were changing from > >the 415 C to the 415 D, sell 368 415 CD"s, following that they started > >producing 415 D models. > >When I first bought my 415 D, I too referred to it as a 415 CD since it > >had been converted. However after reading " The Ercoupe a Touch of Class" > >by Saletri, page 169, I discovered that when a 415 C is converted to a 415 > >D it then became a 415 D and the only real 415 CD's were actually made as > >CD's by Erco in late 1947. > >Sorry for butting in but this may answer a few questions as to whether you > >own a 415 CD or a 415 D. > >I sometimes go crazy reading this mail but I miss my coupe and this is so > >much better than nothing. > >Fly safe > >Jack G. > > > > > >========================================================================= ===== > >To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > ========================================================================== ==== > To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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