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Hartmut, the CD's have a gross weight of 1260 lbs, just like the C's. The only real difference between the C and the CD is the stainless steel skin above the header tank. Syd Cohen Hartmut wrote: ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- I also heard that after the C/D was introduced ERCO converted Ercoupes with lower serial# , they had not sold so far to be C/D s. So was N3330H, serial number 3995 (re)born as a C/D. The idea was simple. The C/D model gave the OPTION to convert it easily to a 415-D when the owner had the desire to do so. ERCO found the Model C safer to fly and did not wanted to get involved into any legal issues I guess. After all, they already advised the sales personal not to over demonstrate the Coupes. Since the new type certificate had been issued already , they could market the Coupe with 1400 ## but It was hard to land in this configuration and maybe even hard to take off on a short field. So selling C/D's was putting the liability onto the user by keeping the selling point of the 14000 gross. Extending this C/D model to all planes left on the factory seems to be a no brainer. They just changes the stainless steel covering of the header tank and voila another, hopefully better selling C/D was born. This happened all beginning 1947 to my knowledge.. Hartmut Richard Wilkens wrote: ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Jack, I believe that the factory 415D had 76 serial numbers set aside for it (4425-4500). I have only been able to find one factory D (N3810H cn. 4435). I find this strange because I have located some information on 75% of all serial numbers available. I know people are going to scream, but don't put your faith in any published numbers as to the number of Coupes built, let alone the number of any one type. From the serial numbers I have and a few production dates, I believe the 415C gave way to a few 415Ds (maybe only one or two) which where followed by the 415CD. The 415CD is almost a 415D without the D's evaluator restrictions and its gross weight and some CDs may have been 415Ds that were converted at the factory. To get me in more trouble, ERCO must have thought the 415D was not worth producing or they would not have gone to the CD which is closer to a 415C than it is to a 415D. By dropping the D, they lost the added gross weight limits which would have been a great selling point for its product considering the company was in trouble. People must want the higher gross weight because they are still converting Cs and CDs to Ds. Richard. N99904 PS. Let the flames roll in! We haven't had a good one this list in months. At 12:04 PM 12/17/2002 -0700, Jack Gocha wrote: ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Hi Gang Every so often people in our group refer to 415 CD Ercoupes. Erco did at the beginning of the third quarter of 1947, when they were changing from the 415 C to the 415 D, sell 368 415 CD"s, following that they started producing 415 D models. When I first bought my 415 D, I too referred to it as a 415 CD since it had been converted. However after reading " The Ercoupe a Touch of Class" by Saletri, page 169, I discovered that when a 415 C is converted to a 415 D it then became a 415 D and the only real 415 CD's were actually made as CD's by Erco in late 1947. Sorry for butting in but this may answer a few questions as to whether you own a 415 CD or a 415 D. I sometimes go crazy reading this mail but I miss my coupe and this is so much better than nothing. Fly safe Jack G. ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm . ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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