Bob, Read what I said and then read what you wrote. I specifically said "It is pressure only, not a real turn of the wheel." I also said that unless the coupe is an extension of yourself don't try it. Having landed in a 45 kt direct X-wind I speak from experience on this subject. I agree you do not make a control movement, and so stated. The AOPA article FAILED to mention not to hit the brakes which is the natural urge and one most likely to be potentially disastrous. Think about it if you hit the brake you are only applying braking power to the wheel that is still on the ground, where do you think you and your coupe are going to go, and in a big hurry. Now as for the AOPA comment about the wing lifting while taxiing down wind I cannot imagine being able to make a turn on the ground at a high enough rate of speed after having landed into the wind to have enough airflow over the wing to generate enough lift to raise a wing. I don't have any experience with this but then I seldom need to taxi at speeds above 60 mph down wind. A wing can only lift due to lift being generated. That means higher speeds than are normally found except on touchdown and at rotation. I know of few others who have landed in a 45 kt direct X-wind (measured and reported by the airport) except for myself and Bill Leavelle, so my comments are purely based on personal experience. The take off was really fun, we just took off across the runway (100 ft wide) sorta made for the classic short but extremely wide runway. We were airborne after about a 50-60' takeoff roll. Use any method you like, but do not try to distort what I said. Dave
At 03:46 AM 12/5/98 -0600, you wrote: >For what it's worth; >Direct quote from November 1998 AOPA PILOT Magazine - page 100. > >"YOU MUST FIGHT THE TENDENCY TO TURN THE WHEEL INTO THE WIND >DURING A CROSSWIND LANDING" - Rick Durden article - November AOPA PILOT. > >Further quote (page 101)... >"The design also means that that you must be prepared to fight the tendency to >weathervane by turning the wheel AWAY from the wind, contrary to everything >you learned in three-control airplanes. Otherwise, you will join the ranks of >the embarrassed who have departed the upwind side of the runway while >negotiating a crosswind in an Ercoupe." > >Another quote (from page 101).... >"By the same token, as you turn downwind while taxiing, the upwind wing will >often try to rise. The cure which emotionally seems to make no sense but >works perfectly, is to apply a little brake. The wing will drop and you may >complete the rollout with a minimum of fuss." > >This is in direct contradiction of what is written below. > >I STRONGLY recommend reading this entire AOPA article for its SAFETY and >entertainment value. > >BTW.... Rick Durden holds an ATP. > >Bob Urban - Commercial, Instrument, SMEL and past CFI >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Mi Vida Loca wrote: >> >> At 08:54 PM 12/4/98 -0700, you wrote: >> >Occasionally, during a cross wind landing, my upwind wing will rise quite >> >high leaving me on the downwind main and nose wheel. Normally I just push >> >the yolk forward and "ride it out". I've started wondering, however, if >> >there is a better technique. My concern in this situation, of course, is a >> >major gust coming along while I'm "riding it out". I've never felt like I >> >was losing control but still, what about a strong gust? Is it mechanically >> >possible for the downwind wing to hit the runway resulting in loss of >> >control? Would it be better to push forward and steer into the raised wing? >> >A year ago I added the main gear extenders to raise the tail. A noticeable >> >difference in ground handling and takeoff roll. Still, the upwind wing will >> >rise in a strong cross wind. The last time this happened was last week, 40 >> >degrees and 16 knots. How do the rest of you handle your Coupes? >> >Jim >> >N-87112 >> >> Jim, >> What is happening is that as the upwind wing swings around it picks up speed, hence it starts flying. The down wind wing is retreating and loosing lift. Do not hit the brakes for any reason, could be a disaster. Also do not push the nose over it just makes you wheelbarrow more. Just ride it out. If you don't get excited you can handle a 45 kt direct X wind. X-Winds are a way of life here in Texas. The single biggest tip I can give you is do not touch down until you have gotten rid of every last possible bit of forward speed. Hold the wheel back in your gut and hold it off as long as possible. If your tail is up level there is no need to push forward which only decreases control when the mains are on the ground. If you have a really good feel for you coupe you can steer every so slightly to the up wind wing which will load it forcing it down a little quicker. DO not make a major correction. It is pressure only, not a real turn of the wheel. Don't try it unless your coupe is a! >! >! >n >> extension of yourself. Hang in there (no pun intended) >> >> Dave >> 41 Charlie >> Dave's Ercoupe Page >> www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave >> ICQ # 1388138 >> http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme > >
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