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Univair keeps going cause of the insurance companys.  every time they 
need an estimate prices on the stuff has got to come from some-where.  
univair catalog is the only place you can get a fixed price so thats 
what gets used.  you cant jsut say i know this guy who might sell me one 
for fifty bucks.  Floyd
Percy Wood wrote:
> At 10:12 PM 10/21/01 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> >My friend Dave and I were talking the other day about Coup parts.
Mainly 
> >the
> >fact that at times they are difficult to find used and often the cost
of
> >replacement from Univair is outrageous.
> 
> Excellent Idea, Jimmy.
>    Dispite nay-sayers, it has been done.  The Don Luscombe Foundation
has
> gotten that bird back in production.  They actually looked at the 
> Ercoupe!
> IMHO, they did not do the `coupe because of the many extrusions/castings
> involved therein.  Luscombe's mostly bent up sheet, which they could get
> made in Slovakia (or is it the Czech Republic?  I can't tell after their

> 
> divorse).
>    Vern had several good picks there.  Yes, you have a"Full Machine
Shop."
> What size is your autoclave?  Do you have the sensors to take and record
> the temperatures of the parts as they are cooked?  I have seen such 
> things,
> and they are Not Small/Take Lots of Electricity/Etc.  He also focused on

> the
> fact that every Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) is different, as

> it 
> every
> FAA person one may talk to.  And when they argue, you loose!
>    Like you, I have fulminated against the outrageous prices for Ercoupe

>    parts.
> Again, IMHO, The M in PMA stands for Monopoly.  And the government wants
> us to think that Bill Gates is bad!  In reality, the problem is the 
> cost/volume
> relationship.  How costs vary with volume Must Be as well known to
> anyone contemplating manufacturing anything as Weight & Balance is to a
> person contemplating going flying = insufficient knowledge thereof 
> kills!  Yes,
> I took accounting and had to do that stuff.
>    Basically, the Fixed Costs are such that you have to get a Humongous
> amount of money for every piece due to low volume.  Of course, Univair, 
> et al.,
> are selling some parts that were made in 1946 and they have just paid
> storage the last 55 years...
>    Now about those wings.  I am very familiar  with the wing that Vern 
> mentioned.
> It gets its strength from bent sheet, so no extrusions, heat treatment,

> and so
> on.  Why isn't it in production?  SOOLF = Stay Out Of Left Field.  
> Aviation
> engineering is a Very Conservative deal.  "If it was good enough for Wil

> and
> Orv, it is good enough for me."  Thank Heavens Fred Weick didn't think 
> that
> way!  You have probably noted that the `coupe wing is one of the Very 
> Few
> that does not use the 'ladder' form of construction.  Just contemplating

> how
> the ribs can be formed from the ordinates of the airfoil is a 
> mathematical
> challenge; I did learn how to do it during a drafting course I took.  
> And a
> single spar; not two.  A marvel, to be sure.
>    I do feel that the Ercoupe could be reintroduced - as a completely
new
> plane.  No parts for old.  Using modern techniques (lots of composites,
> that stir friction weld that I am so interested in).  Same shape, same 
> flying
> characteristics, Subaru engine, you get the idea.
>                         Percy (dreaming) in Portland
> 
> 
> 

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