I was able to lie down in the tail cone because I weigh 160
lb. What I did to hedge my bet was to use a tail stand plus
cut two 8" wide x 8ft long strips of 3/8" plywood and lay
them down on the inside of the fuselage. The plywood helped
to spread my weight over a larger area.

David

Ed Burkhead wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that great information. I would encourage you to post it to
> the list.
> 
> Another question: How did you lie down in the tail cone without bending
> the lower frames? (I weigh about 245 and I always have to be careful not
> to damage stuff I step, sit or lie upon.)
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> > See comments below:
> >
> > Ed Burkhead wrote:
> > >
> > > One design I've liked
> > > riveted a big 6-8" plate to the skin just aft of frame F with the
pull
> > > being linear along the skin and plate -- that looked very strong.
> >
> > That's the design Syd Cohen did. I first had my DER do the
> > computations on that design first, but the more I looked at
> > the actual fabrication, the less I liked it. For one, I
> > would have to carefully cut a thin rectangular hole in frame
> > F with a die grinder and add a reinforcing plate - OR -
> > unrivet part of frame F and pass the plate between F and the
> > skin. Then there was a large triangular rivet pattern on the
> > skin to match paint on. It worked out structurally but it
> > wasn't pretty or easy.
> >
> > > I've been logically partial to the 'linear pull along a flat plate'
> > > method. The worst feature of that or yours is: what happens if the
tail
> > > cone separates?
> >
> > The strength of the joints is such that (I think the skin
> > will deform long before the tailcone leaves the aircraft).
> > Due to unknowns in the original certification, the DER only
> > computed 9G deceleration plus a safety factor,
> >
> > >
> > > John Wright, Sr., favors an installation where the anchor point is
the
> > > rear of the steel member that forms the window sill. With that, the
pull
> > > is diagonal with a side vector, but since one's shoulder is against
the
> > > side wall anyway, I wouldn't expect any bodily damage from that.
> >
> > That installation would be OK with an "over one shoulder"
> > belt. Mine is for a four point that requires a pull on the
> > center line of the seats. I believe this is much better
> > safety-wise. It's unlikely that there will be much side
> > component in a crash.
> >
> > > It looks like, with your design, parts cost would be minimal except
for
> > > the harness and inertial reel. Could I ask how much the physical
> > > fabrication and installation of the parts cost (not including the
> > > designated engineering representatives bill)?
> >
> > The detail is in the package - I approximate below. The cost
> > below was for two harnesses (pilot and copilot).
> >
> > I think I paid $35 to a local FAA licensed sheetmetal shop
> > for four bent stiffener plates - I drilled and finished
> > them.
> >
> > The rod material is around $35. I turned )needed about .007
> > removed to thread properly) and threaded it myself.
> >
> > All the hardware was around $40.
> >
> > The belts were around $250 each, but the Wag Aero ones (no
> > inertia reel and harder to use hardware) are around $85
> > each.
> >
> > I did all the fab and installation myself, but paid my AP
> > for a half hour for help in riveting and another half hour
> > for inspection and signature. It probably took me
> > approximately 8 hours to do all the work, but I wasn't in a
> > hurry and did it over several weekends.
> >
> > David
> 
> --
> Ed Burkhead
> Peoria, Ill.
> Ercoupe N3802H, 415-D


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