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All good points, I have a 415C (75hp) and I have no problems getting off
from a grass field with full
fuel and two adults of average size.

Bob Saville

Warren D Hampton wrote:

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>   Go to the cause. You flying a C model. Pay the few buck and convert to
the
> D model. That ups you Gross, STC yes. Your airplane painted? How many
layers?
> Interior heave padded? Old Big Gyro? Lots of thing you don't need? Old
wire,
> heavy old radio, old antennas. When was the last time the dust and dirt
were
> cleaned from the Belly?
>
> Warren Hampton 8144E, 5644F & 3800H
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